I love these "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin" threads. They are so entertaining.
But since the outcome yardtick in an actual self-defense encounter is generally shot placement/hits in critical zone, you'd probably be better served heading over to the range and burning a few boxes of much less expensive ammo...
Or, perhaps, its because longer knives and bayonets were not practical in the field. And because they were bending barrels. Thus the military profile barrel with the thicker front portion.A Navy Mk.2/USMC "Ka-Bar" fighting knife and current M9 Bayonet have a 7" blade.
The M3 Fighting knife and M4-M7 Bayonet have a 6-3/4" blade.
... because that length will reach the vitals.
Red
Or, perhaps, its because longer knives and bayonets were not practical in the field. And because they were bending barrels. Thus the military profile barrel with the thicker front portion.
Dont forget to look at historical bayonets. Many were 12in or longer.
No its my contention that bayonets, for all practical purposes, have been obsolete for some time due to modern weapons development. And that the military designed a utility and fighting knife that could also be used as a bayonet as that only has to do with the design of the guard and locking mechanism in the handle.So, it's your contention that, for the past Eighty(80) years, the US Military, through Three wars and several major conflicts, has been fielding fighting knives and bayonets to the troops in the field and in harm's way...
... that were spec'ed for practicality and barrel bending... and not deadly combat with a determined enemy?
Fascinating.
You should look into that more.
Red.
had not thought about ball from that aspect. you can reduce recoil while retaining penetration.I carry ball in all my autoloaders. Reliability is number one, then shot placement then penetration. Ball does all this well and you don't need it juiced up to go through your target so you can fire faster and poke more holes.
Therefore, hardcast can't penetrate deeper than a standard copper FMJ as the density didn't change the shape...
My friend had hunting experience with wide flat meplates related to hunting. Mainly using 44spl loads in a rifle at around 1300fps. Cuts an inch and a half diameter hole in one side and out the other of a deer. We also tested these loads against 240g xtp bullets in ballistics gel. While the hollow point provided a larger initial cavity it tapered off. While the wide flat nose punched a wide cavity, larger in total size in one side and out the other.Great read on why flat point meplat only matters on large caliber rifle rounds at 500gr and only a rifle level velocity which even the hottest 380 isn't even at half at.
http://www.gsgroup.co.za/articlepvdw.html
Then, even if meplat mattered in small calibers, which they appear not to, too much of that flatness decreases penetration. This makes sense. Drag either through increased resistance by shape or (strangely, speed) kills penetration. It's why a super hot Gold Dot might not actually be as good as a factory loaded Gold Dot. Drag increases faster than velocity. Cross sectional size increases drag. Drag can't be assumed to be positive or doing anything "better."
https://www.africahunting.com/threa...-nose-solids-what-are-the-actual-facts.57387/
If you still like it though, white box flat point 380 is certainly cheaper than a special one off by BB.
I don't disagree with someone choosing FMJ for their feeding issues, but JHP for 380 out of an LCP is reaching 9mm JHP performance and no one is advocating for using FMJ instead of JHP in 9mm.
I was planning to melt my gel block back down next week for some testing. I will try and put the 357s back through the block again and get some pics for you. I would not have believed it had i not done it myself, no offense taken.I don't think flat FMJ is the recommended defense anywhere for any circumstance.
For example, all 40 S&W FMJ, typically is greater than any 38spl speed, and is all flat point. Gold Dot is the standard in 40 for all agency use.
True on 38spl to what you say for wadcutter not working. It is the worst looking stuff on luckygunner:
https://www.luckygunner.com/38spl-winchester-super-match-148gr-wc-50#geltest
https://www.luckygunner.com/38-spec...utter-hp-winchester-super-x-50-rounds#geltest
Not being rude with you, but I don't think you and your friend proved 357mag in wadcutter is more effective than JHP.