I've decided to carry two spare magazines.

Hate to tell you this, but if attacked by more than one assailant 21 shots probably aren't going to make alot of difference. If your talking 2 adolescents standing there with their hands in their pockets threatening you, maybe. If you're talking 2 armed men, pistols in hand, wishing to do you harm...if you're Bruce Willis maybe, if not you're going to bleed.
But carry what makes you happy, just don't forget to practice with what you carry.
 
Just wondering, do you live in a high crime area? What is the need for a second gun on person when you are already carrying a high capacity service size auto, not to mention two spare mags? I know police officers who don't even carry a back up gun and there chance of running into conflict are about 10x greater than yours.
 
Just wondering, do you live in a high crime area? What is the need for a second gun on person when you are already carrying a high capacity service size auto, not to mention two spare mags? I know police officers who don't even carry a back up gun and there chance of running into conflict are about 10x greater than yours.
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I don't live in a high crime area, I live in close proximity to one and have to drive through it frequently. If you read my earlier posts, I provide a website that shows Kansas City's crime statistics. One reason I carry a second gun is for when I am in the car. I can easily reach my .38 as it is tucked in my waistband. My G22 is on my right hip and is a pain to get while seated. I just feel more comfortable carrying 2 guns.
 
hmmmm folks seem to be having a hard time accepting a persons feelings. I know the gals like to poke fun a guys and their feelings, but feelings really have no logical basis for examination. Why not simply accept the OPs statement ? I'm OK with it. Different strokes for different folks.

If you are comfortable with 5 shots then fine carry 5 shots. If you need a .44 magnum and six reloads to feel comfortable, then good luck.
 
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You weren't overboard until half of 5, then 6 and 7
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LOL, WUT?
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Half of 5- 1 mag is understandable, 2 becomes overboard, imo.
6- Second gun on top of first one with 2 spare mags is overboard, imo.
7-Hell if you need to cut something, you got enough to do it with bullets.

1. Wallet
2. Keys
3. Cell Phone (R2-D2 limited edition Verizon Droid 2 by the way)
4. Glock 22 (In a Serpa CQC level 2 holster)
5. 2 Spare mags for the G22 (In a double mag pouch)
6. Taurus model 85 .38 special loaded with Hornady Critical defense JHP (In an Uncle Mike's IWB holster)
7. Gerber pocket knife

I'm all for exercising rights. Just my opinion on whether this instance is overboard or not. Keep on truckin'.:)
 
I carry a rape whistle. I blow that if I am in any trouble, and someone with an actual gun will come and help me...

I usually just carry a knife for utility. Granted we can't carry here but I doubt I will carry much more then a J-frame or LCR with some sorta fancy .38s in it, perhaps Extreme Shock I hear those only hit bad guys and explode with the force of America and all her freedoms when the hit evil doers.
 
Half of 5- 1 mag is understandable, 2 becomes overboard, imo.
6- Second gun on top of first one with 2 spare mags is overboard, imo.
7-Hell if you need to cut something, you got enough to do it with bullets.
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Ah ha, I get ya now. Thanks for the explanation TheGoldenState. I probably could cut something in half with bullets if I needed to, it would probably go like this:

Officer: Son, why did you shoot up the store and scare everyone in there to death?

Me: I had a loose string on my shirt and was trying to cut it off with bullets, it was suggested to me in an online forum I frequent.

:D
 
Some of you guys seem to be giving him a hard time for reasons I can't really fathom. Honestly, think about it. If he can totally conceal a single mag holder on his belt or elsewhere, is a second one really that much more?

As for carrying two guns... if I were going to be in that dangerous an area frequently, I might consider it too. There have been times in the past where I packed two pistols - a 9mm with two spare mags in a shoulder rig and a .380 in my pocket.

The backup gun was not there because I thought I'd go through 40 rounds of ammo. It was there if I couldn't get to my primary or if I was disarmed.

Of course, MOST of the time I only carry a .380 because I live in the country... I wouldn't live somewhere unsafe, life's too short to put up with it.

And really, giving him a hard time because he carries a pocket knife? What planet are you guys from? Who DOESN'T carry a pocket knife? Even my wife has one in her purse! I've got a tiny gerber folding blade on my keys, a tiny AAA flashlight on my keys, a titanium Inka pen on my keys, and about half the time I have a 180 lumen flashlight and a full-sized Leatherman on my belt. Honestly, I don't know how people would get along WITHOUT a knife...

Don't sweat it, Nocturnus - do what makes you feel safe. Might start carrying another extra mag for my P238 just to spite people. :D
 
I agree that you can never have enough ammo. Normally I carry one spare magazine. When I travel I carry two magazines plus have a box of ammo in the car. If you feel comfortable with two mags then more power to you. :)
 
I guess the only thing I can really find fault with is if you have to use one of your weapons and it becomes a civil matter. And civil attorny worth his salt isn't going to overlook the fact that you were carrying 2 pistols and 2 spare mags. Of course people think I'm crazy for what I carry for much the same reason and it hasn't changed my mind any.
 
I guess the only thing I can really find fault with is if you have to use one of your weapons and it becomes a civil matter. And civil attorny worth his salt isn't going to overlook the fact that you were carrying 2 pistols and 2 spare mags. Of course people think I'm crazy for what I carry for much the same reason and it hasn't changed my mind any.
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I'll just leave you with this overused quote:
"Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6."
 
I don't know where you live or what your situation is.

But I don't generally carry a spare mag, or a back up gun, let alone two spares AND a backup gun.

This is the same if not more of a load out than the local cops would be carrying... and they actively put themselves in harms way, sounds like your just toting around all that weight.

I am not trying to put anyone down for carrying mags or a BUG, what works for you works for you... I just feel its not justified at all, so I don't do it myself.

That being said I keep an extra gun in my car.

Most SD shootings are less than 3 shots fired... I feel like it is very hard to justify carrying 30+ rounds on ones self PLUS a BUG everyday.

I carry a spare mag with my 1911 once in awhile, but its a 10round extended mag... so that gives me 19 rounds of .45acp on myself, which I feel is more than enough for what I would be encountering. I don't plan on getting in a gun battle with a bad guy.. if I am forced to shoot I will shoot, but only until I can find a means of escape... I do not want to be hanging around returning fire, and doing multiple mag changes.

On the flip side of things I live in the country, where I am lucky the cops would get here in less than 30 minutes... so I keep a few mags for my AR loaded.

As for the tough guy answer of ""Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6."

I am fairly certain I would rather die than have to live in one of our over populated prisons like a dog... and have a new boyfriend named Bubba, but that is just me.;)

Watch some SD footage that has been caught on film.. they are not like movie shoot outs people intend to envision, MOST happen very quickly, very few shots fired. Yes some go on longer like the North Hollywood shoot out.. but this is getting back to what others have said.. your not a cop.. you don't have an obligation to hang around and return fire... matter of fact that would probably get you killed or thrown in jail.
 
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I can understand having a spare mag in FMJ (if you're in a situation where you need the extra penetration), but I don't understand the choice of two types of HP ammo....esp. in two different weights that will shoot to two different points of aim. That's too much to keep up with in a shooting situation.

Besides, in most cases, the spare mag isn't to reload during the shooting....but to reload after the shooting is over.....
 
I always have 2 major opinions when I read a post like this. Firstly as the OP admits he is new to CC and what not.

You see the tread in most novice shooters (no offense intended) usually male but also female to get the biggest, meanest, or fanciest weapons out there that they know of. We've all seen it someone at a shop looking for a 'Colt .45', 'Deagle', '.50AE', 'Five SeveN', 'Hk Mk23', .44mag or the .500mag and the always classic Glock. I am not claiming the OP is one of these I simply state that at the beginning the wow factor overpowers the practicality or common sense of a purchase. you find that the full size all steel 1911 gives way to a smaller polymer gun or perhaps even a smaller .380 or 5-shot revolver.

Here in WI with the whole CCW law passing in Nov. You'd think that 90% of the people in my town will be getting into gun fights within the next month or two, stoppin all the badguys or what not. :rolleyes:

On the other hand I think we've all wound up in seedy places every now and again, sometimes it can't be avoided I've been in neighborhoods where I clearly was not welcome, this was due to a job and once when I got lost in a bigger city. I was very lucky some 'nicer' locals made sure I wasn't confronted while I was there. So I can also understand the OP desire for extra ammo or a BUG.

Perhaps the OP is a bit of both or neither, but as long as he is a responsible CC holder I wish him well and hopefully he will never need the heavy **** he carries each day. I try to not belittle someone for what they do in order to feel safe, yes I may jest, poke fun or slip up once and awhile. Its hard to form a decent opinion of someone (or their life) you know nothing about save for a few sentences online.

Its like my key ring. I usually only need one or two on a daily basis but I have like forty other ones with me just in case. :D
 
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I also have a couple of comments on the choice to add ammo.

1) if as you say you feel threatened as you drive through a dangerous part of town, why you choose a setup that gives you access only to your .38 at the time in which you might need it most? You carry all that firepower and make it non accessible to you where the risk is higher.

2) do not discount what some people have said about zealous DA's and the increased of criminal prosecution your choices are bringing. The risk of criminal and civil prosecution is very real following an armed encounter and the amount of s%^# you carry will help a prosecutor in characterizing you as a trigger happy vigilante and not a responsible citizen defending himself. You want to live to see the future, don't get there behind cell bars or financially wrecked by civil lawsuits.

I would streamline and rationalize your gear, possibly carrying the .38 only and placing the Glock in the car in a way to make it easily accessible to you, obviously in compliance with your local laws about the storage of firearms in cars.

Train, gear is not the panacea you think it is. Also, like most people who haven't been in the army you focus on tacticts (the brand of ammo, the # of magazines) rather than logistics (can i actually access my firearm when I need the most). I think am paraphrasing General Patton here.
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Not to the OP but to all those who said "the OP should carry what makes him feel good". If you go online and ask for comments, what good is that? I carry what I want and I don't feel the need to ask for comments. The day I do, feel free to criticize and comments, when I post am asking for other opinions not a feel good blanket.
 
Were you commenting on my post with your last paragraph? I'm not sure what you are saying but I did spend three years in the army.

In any event, the brand of ammo has nothing to do with tactics; that's the gear part. But I agree, the drift of many posts in many threads is all about brand names, most of which I've never heard of. On the other hand, accessing your firearm when you need it is definately tactics, or so I would think.
 
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