Is there any PRACTICAL and effective way to persuade more 22LR?

You never know . Also in regaurds to popular ammo flipping I was at a Flea market the other day ( yea looking for prepper stuff ) and these guys had split up boxes of .22 ,s and other ammo into zip lock bags and folks were buying them . I didn't even stop and look .
 
Manufacturers may well be enjoying the higher margins. 22lr was a tough market in the first place with all kinds of specials and special packaging to push one brand over another. I suspect the margins were pretty low.

There is a pull on manufacturers right now and that's good for them, they may not be in any big hurry to start pushing sales again.
 
I know some one that took the time to call Federal and was told to expect this kind of replinishment for the next 3 years from any suplier . I'm glad I also reload .
 
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Actually, they may well be.
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That's true, but its more of a side-effect than directly The Panic itself. Those firearms being sold, even though they're selling because of The Panic, will result in "sustained demand".

Whatever the companies think will be future sustained demand, for any reason, will be part of their plans for expansion.

Today's demand isn't purely panic, we all know that. There's whatever the demand has been all along, there's the expected increase due to normal expected sales, there's the unexpected demand due to sales of firearms as part of the panic and there's demand that is NOTHING BUT panic.

No doubt, good business means that the ammo companies already had a plan in place for the first two parts of that demand and I'm sure they are formulating plans to compensate for the previously unanticipated demand from the panic related sales of firearms and the ammo those will need but they're NOT making expansion plans for that 4th part.
 
I doubt that companies would tool up new manufacturing lines if they thought new laws being passed or other regulation would impact thier bussiness in a negative way .
 
"That's true, but its more of a side-effect than directly The Panic itself. Those firearms being sold, even though they're selling because of The Panic, will result in "sustained demand"."

No, it's a direct effect.

Before the first panic in 2007, production of .22 ammunition in the United States had stayed roughly the same for decade or more and had barely risen since the middle 1980s. Demand and supply had reached a nice equilibrium at between 3.5-4 billion rounds a year, with total production capacity of roughly 4.5 to 5 billion rounds a year.

Even worse, firearms sales had been on a gradual cooling trend from the early 1990s to 2006.

Since 2007, that equilibrium has been thrown totally out of whack.

If ammo producers didn't think that there would be sustained increased future demand based in part on total number of new firearms entering the marketplace, they wouldn't be expanding. It's horrifically expensive to expand an ammo line. Rumors among some of my friends who are still in the business is that the "new normal" production equilibrium is going to be close to 5 to 5.5 billion rounds a year, with slated production expansion able to bump that closer to a maximum of about 6 to 6.5 billion rounds a year.

If they didn't expect sustained consumption to last, they would be telling everyone to suck it up and ride it out, that it's a temporary fluctuation that will right itself and the equilibrium will return in due time.

That happened with primers back in the early to mid 1990s.
 
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Its good to see supply and prices easing, but what can we expect in the 2016 elections? Would it be repeat (panic) of sorts, and would demand skyrocket again?
 
Its good to see supply and prices easing, but what can we expect in the 2016 elections? Would it be repeat (panic) of sorts, and would demand skyrocket again?
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If it does, it will be like the immediate aftermath of 2012... people who weren't paying attention the first time. We've had a hardened gun control guy in the White House for nearly 6 years at this point- by then it will be 8. If eight years of that won't kick your rear off the fence then nothing will.

Thing is, though, the current panic has much less to do with the 2012 elections than with November 6, 2012 and much more to do with December 14, 2012. It was the Sandy Hook shooting that really kicked gun control back into the limelight, not Obama being elected to a second term. The panic from 2008 was nothing compared to that which hit in late December 2012 (that we're still digging out from).

It's not elections that worry me, it's what nutjobs will do that could cause a shift in public viewpoint.
 
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