Is it prudent to put 1000 rounds through a carry gun?

I have put over 10,000 rounds through my beretta px4

around 7,000 rounds, the drop of paint fell out of the front sight.
i filled it in with white out untill my trijicons arrived

other than that, not a single hiccup, ftf, fte, etc... it has functioned flawlessly
 
If your carry gun is of a weak design, I can see worrying about how many rounds you fire in it. Such guns as older aluminum framed S&W and Colt revolvers, small guns like Kel-Tec .32s and .380s, and such guns are Ravens and Loricn autos.

But for such guns as Glocks, 1911s, P-35s, H&Ks, etc... why 1000 rounds just kind of nicely gets the gun running.
 
Yea, but, many and I'm among them wouldn't begin to believe your Sig to be reliable at the 500 mark, or even the 700-1000 mark, which is the point (in part, at least) many advocating the "at least a 1000 rounds make."
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I understand this "point"...

However, I wasnt necessarily proposing that the 500-1000 mark was the "end all be all" of proving grounds, in terms of reliability (I feel comfortable saying that I believe the Sig will go far beyond this w/out issue). I was merely saying that I wouldnt dismiss a gun as "unreliable" should it experience issues before the 1000 round mark was acheived. Keep in mind, there are quite a few variables here that might have an effect on the outcome and not all having to do with the weapon itself. But, Im speaking of generalities here.
 
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Okay, got you now.

Well, depends on the gun. I have a Glock 23 with 750 rounds I trust implicitly, and I trusted it after maybe 250 rounds fired.

The good marques I'd trust after, in general, 500 trouble-free rounds.
 
I dont think there is a magical number of shots to make a gun trustworthy. Either it is, or it isnt. You can uasually tell in the first range outing if a firearm is going to be problematic or not.

But then again, all my handguns are revolvers, and as long as they were built right, about the only way to make one break is to wear it out. No worries about FTE's FTF's and stovepipes for me.
 
IMHO it would depend greatly on the gun.My CA Bulldog will never see the 1000 round mark for the reason you discribe.My Ruger SP101 I expect it to go well past 1000.similar with autos sertain brand designs are not a robust as others.
My requirements also change with design and reputation.I'd buy a Makarov and after checking it out, fire a mag full thru it to check POA and pretty much trust it. I wouldn't concider this with a Kel-tec.
 
I have never had a part break; all but one of my guns have well over 1,000 rds through them.
I have one BoMar sight base with an aftermarket blade that's been knocked loose after over 10K and ten years.

Am I lucky or what?
 
Most say that a good gun can fire multiple thousands of rounds before showing any significant signs of wearing out but that they start to see small/fixable failures occurring in substantial numbers in the 700-1000 round count area. Usually small pieces needing replaced or adjusted, timing issues, etc.
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I would say that if your handgun needs parts replaced/fixed at the 700-1000 round mark then it's time to find a different handgun to carry.

I have a gun that has gone 20k+ without so much as a spring being replaced (Glock 17). I have a 1911 that has gone 10k+ without so much as a spring being replaced (although you should replace recoil springs regularly... I shoot lighter reloads so I don't worry about it as much).

If I take a look inside my 1911 with over 10k rounds I see little or no signs of wear.

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I similarly so little or no signs of wear in my G17.

These are the pistols I shoot most... over the last couple of years anyway.

I would like to know what pistol these experts are saying should have parts fixed/replaced at 700-1000 rounds are.
 
inSigtNEO,
I follow you.

Your Sig should indeed go far beyond the mark we're discussing here without any concerns. The average Sig user has very little cause for concern through the first 10,000 rounds, and little after that for another 10,000 to 15,000 rounds. IIRC an armorer I know who has a statistically significant sampling of high round count Sig pistols commented that he often sees concerns develop between 25,000 and 35,000. For the average owner, the ammunition used, maintenance performed, luck of the draw, expected round count,and intended use rules out significant cause for concern.
 
I wouldn't own a carry weapon that didn't have the initial quality to fire at least 1000 round without a problem. There are at least a hundred guns that your can buy that will virtually guarantee 1000 fail free shots.

On the other hand, I don't think I'd feel comfortable with a carry weapon that I hadn't fired at least 1000 rounds with - practice, practice, practice. I just want to be as comfortable and confident as I can and 1000 round is not that much. One box a day for twenty days???
 
Never have I ever heard of wearing out a decent firing arm, no mater how many rounds you put through it. As far as trusting my gun, sure I do from the day it was purchased, if you have doubts about your gun maybe you shouldn't of bought it. :rolleyes:
 
"Never have I ever heard of wearing out a decent firing arm, no mater how many rounds you put through it."

Never? Really? C'mon. A search of this forum alone reveals numerous failures cited as having occurred to nearly every popular make and model; parts failing, frames cracking, components getting out of sync and needing adjustment, etc. Granted often times the solution is fairly simple. Fire arms are machines, and it is not unreasonable to expect them, like any other machine, to exhibit signs of wear up to and including "wearing out."

Hey, do you know of any "decent automobiles?" The type which never wear out no matter how many miles you put on the odometer? I'm in the market for one, as it turns out.
 
There have been handguns that have gone through tests that involve over 50,000 rounds without a problem at all. Handguns do not normally break if they are properly cared for and used correctly. My personal routine is for me to shoot at least 300 rounds through my new handgun to see how it will do. After the range test, I take it apart, clean it and look for any defects. If I observe any potential problems I take it to my friendly local gunsmith and see what he suggests. While I'm there I always have him polish the feed ramp and chamber area if it is a semiautomatic pistol. If its a revolver I have him check the timing of the cylinder and gap between the cylinder and forcing cone of the rear of the barrel. With both types pistols I may also have him smooth out the triggers too. Once that gunsmith work is done I then go back to the range and shoot another 300 or so rounds through it. You will be amazed how much better your gun will cycle and function by doing this. The original 300 rounds gives you and your gunsmith wear indicators like on the slide, trigger parts and so on to help him make repairs. The second 300 rounds helps make you a little more confident with your pistol's reliability.
 
Erik they quit making "decent automobiles" long time ago, now they're 3 year through a ways. As far as any of my guns, never wore one out or or broke it. :D
 
Since ammo isn't cheap and money doesn't grow on trees I can't afford to put 1000+ rounds through my carry gun before I actually carry it. I do, however put 3 full mags +1 through it at a steady pace, then i put 3 more mags +1 at a very fast rate, and then i put 3 more mags +1 at a steady pace. If I don't experience any problems at all then I feel like I can trust my life to the weapon, and I do. I also practice malfuntion drills a lot when I'm bored and Law & Order is interrupted by commercials.
 
My (sole!) carry gun right now is a Ruger New Vaquero in 357, which is about as stone-axe tough as a gun gets and probably one of the most reliable carry guns anybody has EVER carried. I doubt it would even notice 1,000 rounds.
 
Can`t say I can put a number on the rounds of ammo shot through my ccw to feel secure in the weapon. I usually fire new weapon with different styles and brands of ammo, fire weapon gripping differently, slow,double-tap and rapid fire. In short try to get weapon to ftf. Thats probably done in 500 or so rds. before I`ll carry that gun.
 
I would say that if your handgun needs parts replaced/fixed at the 700-1000 round mark then it's time to find a different handgun to carry.
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I agree. Most quality guns should go for at least 10,000 rounds before you start to see any parts breaking. Of course there are exceptions to that. Guns like the Rohrbaugh R9 are not designed to be shot that much.

I'd feel comfortable carrying a gun that has 200 trouble free rounds (of my carry ammo) through it but I'd feel even more comfortable if it has 1000 or more trouble free rounds through it (with at least 200 of those being my carry ammo). I don't think it's prudent to shoot 1000 trouble free rounds of WWB through your gun and declare it carry ready if your carry ammo is going to be Speer Gold Dots.
 
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