Is carrying 2 guns overkill?

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No offense, but that statement is a little too "mall ninja" for my tastes. Who really lives their lives thinking this way and how many times have they actually put this into practice?

None taken, this is a forum. Mas Ayoob mentioned several instances in various articles over the years.

Geoff
Who listens and learns.
 
In a previous post Double Naught Spy said, Your cartoon link apparently changes daily and currently has nothing to do with Florida, spandex, concealed carry, or anything mentioned in the post.

True, but if you check out the previous cartoons you will learn all about Florida, at least the Tampa Bay area, spandex, weapons and such.

Geoff
Who likes to spread his bad habits, such as on line cartoons, to the innocent.:D
 
None taken, this is a forum. Mas Ayoob mentioned several instances in various articles over the years.
Can you give some examples? I have read some of his work and he has always seemed more of a "yarn spinner" than a real journalist. A glaring lack of details or evidence always seem to be present in his stories.

A lot of the things he says are so over the top and not based in reality. When I try to find out what he is basing his opinions on I usually cannot find anything. I cannot even find where he has actually had any true gunfighting experience. I sometimes feel he is one of the greatest jokes ever played on the gun community...the ultimate example of "those that can, do...and those that can't, make a career out of talking about it."
 
If you want to discuss Ayoob's views of two guns fine - or his data base.

If you want to dislike him - that's thread drift which isn't useful. Mas is a member here - PM or e-mail him for a reference if one wants to.
 
If you want to dislike him - that's thread drift which isn't useful. Mas is a member here - PM or e-mail him for a reference if one wants to.
In this case, his credibility is relevant. I do not dislike him or his writings. I find them entertaining. However, his writings are being used in this case to validate a reason for the general citizen to carry multiple weapons. Something I have no issue with either. Since his writings are being used as a reference, the validity and basis for those opinions is fair game. He puts himself in the public light so he has to be able to address criticism of his opinions. Just as we all do when we post on this public forum. I would bet that every one of us here has had to defend our positions and provide basis for our ideas more than once on this forum.

He often discusses personal experience that would back up his ideals, but I seldom see any proof of these experiences. I also see lots of people dispute his claims and I never see him address these disputes. Which is fine, he is not required to do so...but that does not change the fact that the disputes are made and no evidence is there to support his claims.

In this case, he claims you should carry a second gun so you can arm a second person. I not only find this a bit outlandish but also a bit on the irresponsible side. I would never hand a loaded gun to a stranger. Surely he has basis for claiming this is the right thing to do. Surely he did not just decide this in his own mind without it having any relevance to the real world. This opinion, along with a lot of his opinions, just strikes me as being very "mall ninja." It strikes me as being someone who talks the talk but has never really walked the walk. This is how he makes his living and I believe he just might be the one of the better writers and bigger personalities, but I think a lot of it is theater. I just think some people do not realize that.
 
He often discusses personal experience that would back up his ideals, but I seldom see any proof of these experiences.

Why then don't you just go ahead and call the man a liar?

You have said you were a LEO and an army officer in previous posts. Are you required to prove this claim? No. Doesn't mean you weren't a cop and an army officer if someone doesn't believe you, does it?
 
Why then don't you just go ahead and call the man a liar?
There is a big difference between being a story teller and a liar. Is Stephen King a liar?
You have said you were a LEO and an army officer in previous posts. Are you required to prove this claim? No. Doesn't mean you weren't a cop and an army officer if someone doesn't believe you, does it?
If you followed my earliest posts you would find I did back up my claims to my previous professions. Even very cute pics of a young me in my uniform. Still, I am not the one making a living off feeding questionable information to people. Anyone else in here that has been an LEO or received advanced training will probably agree that Ayoob is more regarded as a fiction writer in professional circles than anything else. He writes some good stuff, and much of it is informative as well as entertaining...but if you start taking it as gospel and use it to validate your personal decisions you are probably not choosing the best source.

He is a controversial and entertaining figure. I think he likes that. I think he puts himself in that position in purpose. it is a great way to promote yourself and have success, which he has. People just need to realize that when treating his writings as scripture.

In this case, his opinion is being used to validate carrying two guns. Instead of deflecting the issue why not address his reason he gives and question the credibility of the idea.

Simply put, what does he base this claim upon? How often has it actually happened? How likely is it to happen? Who has it happened to and when?
 
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Anyone else in here that has been an LEO or received advanced training will probably agree that Ayoob is more regarded as a fiction writer in professional circles than anything else.

Really? You...and who else?
 
Stephen King doesnt claim his stories to be life experiences..
Stephen King often writes from a first person perspective. To an ignorant reader it could seem he is making claims that he experienced the events. The trick with writings is to know when to take them at face value and when to validate their contents. Knowing when to accept something and fact and when to accept it s fiction is very important.

Can we please address the topic and answer the questions as to "How often does he claim this has happened? Who has it happened to? What was the outcome?"
 
Stephen King often writes from a first person perspective. To an ignorant reader it could seem he is making claims that he experienced the events.

Dude....its a style of narration in writing. Its called "the first person" for a reason. Stephen King stories are still fantasy. I seriously doubt if Mas Ayoob is writing less from personal experience, as he claims, than as an effective style of fantasy writing using the first person.
 
Dude....its a style of narration in writing. Its called "the first person" for a reason. Stephen King stories are still fantasy. I seriously doubt if Mas Ayoob is writing less from personal experience, as he claims, than as an effective style of fantasy writing using the first person.
Then you will have no problem getting back on topic and discussing the validity of his claim. How about it?
 
Since you obviously lack any proof that Mas Ayoob's life experience claims are untrue, sure...lets get back on topic: two guns is always better than none...or one.
 
Like I thought, a while lot of defending nonsense with nothing but bluster.

Does anyone else have any real evidence to enter supporting or criticising the validity of this line of reasoning?
 
Like I thought, a while lot of defending nonsense with nothing but bluster.

What? did you mean whole?

Youre the one who made a whole lot of nonsense about Mas Ayood with nothing but bluster to back up your claim. So who again is full of it?
 
Youre the one who made a whole lot of nonsense about Mas Ayood with nothing but bluster to back up your claim. So who again is full of it?
I addressed an idea that has little validity. Would you care to put forth information to support the idea or do you have nothing to add on topic?
 
I addressed an idea that has little validity. Would you care to put forth information to support the idea or do you have nothing to add on topic?

What ever. You made wild claims calling into question a member's personal experience's and you got promptly shut down...to which you promptly tap dance away from the issue by asking us to disprove this member authenticity...and then quickly trying to steer away from your axe grinding by claiming it isnt on topic. Nice try, Playboy. Perhaps when you make such wild claims and personally lambaste a fellow member's professional and journalistic integrity, you should first have proof to back it up.
 
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