Iran issues stark military warning to United States

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We'll immediately start with North Korea and Iran and invade anybody who even looks a little suspicious. Maybe Venezuela.
And of course we still have to keep Iraq together. And Afghanistan (remember them?) as well.
Hell....let's just invade everybody! :D

Only problem is we don't have the resources to fight everybody at once because someone neglected to fund military infrastructure the whole time he's been using it. And squandered his political capital crying "wolf" over Iraq. He doesn't have the military or the backing of....hell, anybody to go after Iran and everybody knows it.

Mark Steyn is an ass.
 
To all Bush Bashers. Everyone seems to forget the condition we were in before the Iraq invasion; 9/11 was still very fresh, Bin Laden was missing after Tora Bora and speculated to be dead, people were still opening letter with caution and to this day no one know who did the anthrax attacks, and importantly everyone from the CIA, to British intellegence, to Jordan Officials thought Saddam probably had WMD, and that he was a nut job that hated America. The Iranians hardliners did not win the elections yet and there was a strong possibility that the pro western youth was going to take over the country. The Pakistani nuclear intelligence "Black Market" was not discovered until the eve of the Iraq war.

Did Bush screw up some things...Heck yes. Beyond blundering a lot of domestic issues, quite frankly there was poor prep done on the Iraq Invasion post Saddam, there was no exit strategy, there was no intel done on who would make a good leader when Saddam was de-throned, unlike in afghanistan, post Taliban. They assumed it would be a cake walk like Afghanistan; we go in kick out the Bad guys, the pro american good guys take over and run the country happily ever after...that did not happen in Iraq. Bush like Clinton would have been a decent 1 term president. What gets me is I am seeing a lot of Bush Bashing revisionist. It was not obvious that Iraq had no WMDs...it was a mistake anyone in his position could have made...let it go...We are in Iraq, regardless if was Bush or Gore running the show. My problem is the Democrats bash Bush, but they have ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD CANIDIDATES or even a clue on how to do things better. What would Kerry do better in Bush's position, What would Hilliary do different??? Come on now.

I have lost faith that any Politician, from any party, can fix the mess the US is in.
 
GoSlash27, I understand we have differing opinions, and thats great. Thats America. And I am not advocating blindly following or agreeing with our leaders personally. I disagree with alot our leaders do, and would oppose some of it. What I am trying to say is, that when it comes to the face we show to the rest of the world, it should be of unity, loyalty, and fierce determination. We stand firm behind our country. Wether or not we agree, we do not waiver, we back each other to the hilt in the face of an enemy.....

The rest of the world sees us fighting and bickering with each other over issues, unable to come together, and they point and laugh. America needs to turn as one, and end our external issues....then we can argue all we want about the right and wrong of it.....once we are safe again....
 
Again, I disagree. I believe that it is each American's duty to our country to speak out when we disagree. How else to change a course that we see as destructive to the nation itself?
 
Iran is funding terror, and soddom hussain funded terror.
Iran is recruting its people for suicide missions against us and Isreal. Regardless of what we do. Iran is a terrorist state and must be stopped and it's power structure destroyed.

Talking with these nuts is silly, and they know it, and love it when they hear foolish remarks from American politicians.

Diane Feinstein, for instance just said " It's time for "Tough Diplomacy"


My favorite was during the pres. debates, John Kerry said, "I'd a sent nuclear fuel to Iran just to see what they would do with and go from there"
 
Military response, a hard military response.

Starting with their "Yellow Cake" facilities. Then target their terror recruitment camps where they are signing up folks to train for terror missions and leave Iran and carry out more terrorism.
 
"The President is merely the most important among a large number of
public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the
degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his
efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested
service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary
that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and
this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong
as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American
citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no
criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President,
right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally
treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be
spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell
the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else."
Theodore Roosevelt
Source:"Roosevelt in the Kansas City Star",May 7, 1918
 
Carbiner,
What is a "Yellow Cake Facility" and a "Terror Recruitment Camp"?
Can they be spotted from satellite photos? How do you propose to hit them? Cruise missiles, special forces, armored invasion?
Will these forces be diverted from the effort in Iraq/Afghanistan? Where will they stage from?
 
goslash, get with the program and look it up.

You asked for my suggestion, I gave it.

Yellow cake is enriched uranium.

It can be used in smaller scale terror attacks.

They just re-affirmed they want destroy Isreal yesterday.

They also announced the recruitment of 40,000 new suicidal nuts. This includes women and kids, and yes they too need to be dispatched if we are to get a handle on this islamic terror and kill it.
 
I also wonder what kind of creepy specialists Iran has hired from Russia, China, to figure out how to distribute their new found nuclear nightmare.

Don't think these killers are going to wait for a better missle to transport a nuke.

Iran, Syria, Hamas/Palistin are a gathering storm on OUR horizon.
 
carbiner,
No dodging. I know exactly what yellowcake is. I know that terrorist ranks are increasing.
Not what I asked you.
You present your suggestion as if it has merit and now I'm simply asking you to justify that if you can. So I repeat:
What is a "Yellow Cake Facility" and a "Terror Recruitment Camp"?
Can they be spotted from satellite photos? How do you propose to hit them? Cruise missiles, special forces, armored invasion?
Will these forces be diverted from the effort in Iraq/Afghanistan? Where will they stage from?
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The way I see it I've heard all these arguments 3 years ago. We can see how well it turned out.
 
carbiner, how long after your 'solution' do you imagine the mushroom clouds over our cities. The paradox is that in trying to prevent this occurance we are most likely to incite it. I'm finally convinced that violence only breeds more violence. Meanwhile we're the kings of putting out fires with flamethrowers.

I 2nd slash's notion regarding how it turned out last time. The man in charge already spent his 'political capital' on the last 2 ventures. I don't know if he's got enough support or luck to make a good move on a 3rd. Hey carbiner, we're right behind you on iran dude....right behind you. we'll meetcha there!
 
It worked pretty good on Japan and Hitler. We wiped out their cities, military, and killed of the leadership.

Now we're P.C. about war and it doesn't work to well, so I would agree with you on the last 3 years issue.

I would like to the USA devastate Iran the way we did Japan. Islamofacism would go away fast.

But we won't, so I woudn't worry. We'll have warm loving talks with them, give more of the tax payers money to build their terror machine, and, we'll talk some more. Kinda makes me feel all warm and liberal :D

It's the same sorry story with our borders too.
 
the difference is we haven't had a good rightous war since ww2 carbiner, since then we've had to go off to gawdaweful crapholes to fight people who largly DON'T WANT TO FIGHT. Do you think the average afghan wanted to go to war? the average iraqi? the average korean, vietnamese or anyone we've slaughtered en masse since the days of our grandfathers in europe and japan? Given your course of action WE'RE going to be the ones going away fast. Taking the road to rome, are we not? It's the kind of brash actions that you advocate that have largely gotten us into this mess to begin with. We could have done so much more with so much less.
 
Your too caught up in modern day liberal thought. You see, America does not slaughter inocent people for religous resons. We slaughter terrorists. They think we should die simply for their religous beliefs and attack us.

Yes, we should storm their countries. ZERO tolerance!

In fact, I think it's time for some free Iraq oil :eek:
 
carbiner,
Best I can say is that the U.S. should always be willing to fight for our interests. I'm just not convinced that another Iraq is in our best interest.
 
You're right carbiner, we don't slaughter people over religious reasons. We tend to do so over more trivial ones. Do you believe that vietnam was worth the endeavor?

Oh carbiner, we are alike, are we not? You think I've had too much of the 'liberal' poison while I think you've taken our president's words as gospel. The people we're fighting right now couldn't possibly care less about our religous disposition (or lack thereof), at least when compared to our occupation and destruction of their region. Was a plane not flown into the WTC because of the wto/world banks relationships with countries like Soudi Arabia? If imperialism is a religion then, yes, they want us dead over religion. But otherwise I think they just want to be left the F**k alone.

Check me if I'm wrong here. wto/world bank goes to 3rd world country, makes deal to set up modern infrastructure, highways, hospitals, powerplants, the works. All for the low low price in the billions. wto 'sqeezes' said country for interest, calling in more oil in exchange. People in said nation begin to resent arrangement and people's leaders have to be literally protected from the people by parties interested in maintaining status quo relationship with said leaders. People fly plane into building provoking war with neighboring nation. What did i miss?
 
Best I can say is that the U.S. should always be willing to fight for our interests. I'm just not convinced that another Iraq is in our best interest.
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I think there are few who would disagree with this statement. No one wants us to end up being policemen and baby sitters. Instead, I'd be happy if we'd just make it an oversided parking lot (not necessarily nuclear) for our equipment and men in Iraq:D

We don't need a politically correct war. We need a kick butt, take names, apologize for the civilian casualties later war. It works. Not until the "modern" war have militaries (ours mainly) simply avoided killing the enemy for no other reason than some innocent might also be killed. It doesn't work that way. Proven several times now.
 
Worth what?

The Vietnam War was totally justified and the military didn't lose in Vietnam.

I guess you could ask the million plus Vietnamies and Cambodians, murdered by Vietnam Comunists after the USA abandoned them, if they think the war was worth it. But! you can't because those million plus Vietnamies and Cambodians are dead.
 
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