Playboypenguin
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I get it from a local marine shop. It is designed for bench cushions in boats. I cut it with an x-acto knife.
Installed "handgun" safe in my truck today. **PICS**
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www.consolevault.com make a great line of safes that fit in your center console. It is all steel construction and bolts to the body using existing bolt holes.
I installed one in my truck; Here are pictures of the safe below:
The safe cannot be seen
Lifting center console to reveal closed safe - with my handgun in easy reach on top.
If I enter a building I cannot carry then my handgun is locked securely away.
These safes are huge! It is full of junk here, but is actually big enough to store my laptop in. (notice how far down my KAHR PM40 sits)
I installed one in my truck; Here are pictures of the safe below:
The safe cannot be seen
Lifting center console to reveal closed safe - with my handgun in easy reach on top.
If I enter a building I cannot carry then my handgun is locked securely away.
These safes are huge! It is full of junk here, but is actually big enough to store my laptop in. (notice how far down my KAHR PM40 sits)
Playboypenguin
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Only problem with those is they do not make one for my truck and they cost around $300.
Also, I do not want just a key entry and since every thief looks in the console they will see it and a screwdriver can pry those types of hinged doors right off. It is basically a hidden money box and not a true safe. Do you know if they make a true tumbler style safe insert?
Also, I do not want just a key entry and since every thief looks in the console they will see it and a screwdriver can pry those types of hinged doors right off. It is basically a hidden money box and not a true safe. Do you know if they make a true tumbler style safe insert?
chrisandclauida2
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make sure the hinge pin cant just be pushed out. most of these safes are useless because you can use a ball point pen or paper clip and push the hinge pin out an inch or so then grab it pull it the rest of the way out then just lift up the door.
The lock is a combination lock, and not a key. You would be hard pushed to pry this door off its hinges, you would certainly need more than just a screwdriver. I don't think the pictures do it justice. It is built from 12 gauge plate steel, and everything about it is heavy duty.
Tom Duengel ( tom@consolevault.com ) should be able to answer any questions about changing out the locking mechanism.
Tom Duengel ( tom@consolevault.com ) should be able to answer any questions about changing out the locking mechanism.
allenomics
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Playboypenguin, how many seconds does it take you to access your pistol? I'm assuming that you are right handed.
Playboypenguin
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I am actually ambidextrous when it comes to shooting and batting.
I access it with my left hand and it takes about 3-4 seconds.
parrothead, How many firearms are you ready to hold while you write me a ticket? The last time I was stopped, which was the first time I was ever asked about firearms (might have had something to do with all the camo I was wearing) the officer seemed quite concerned that I had a dozen weapons and about 2000 rounds of ammo in the truck.
Playboypenguin
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parrothead2581
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Well, considering I have recently left in order to take a position that pays nearly 3 times as much, none. That's no longer my problem.
And just for the fun of it, here is Ohio's take on what an LEO may lawfully do during a traffic stop: http://www.ag.state.oh.us/le/prevention/concealcarry/index.asp
Click on "Concealed Carry Publication". It is a large PDF, so dial up beware. See the top of page 19.
I think Pony's got it right. Playboypenguin the safe looks great but in a vehicle I think its a big no no. Even if you can't "really see it" you probably can still see it if you are looking.
I have a friend who lived in Florida during the last major hurricanes. Good news house survived, bad, the large safe that was bolted to the cement foundations was pulled out of the ground never to be seen again.
It was a big solid safe, bolted solid and totally unmovable. Lots of valuables wet bye bye.
I have since come to realize that concealment is as powerful means of safe keeping as a combination lock. I hate to say it, but I've known some bad company in my youth that could devise means to detach a safe from a vehicle pretty quickly . . .
Just some 411 . . .
I have a friend who lived in Florida during the last major hurricanes. Good news house survived, bad, the large safe that was bolted to the cement foundations was pulled out of the ground never to be seen again.
It was a big solid safe, bolted solid and totally unmovable. Lots of valuables wet bye bye. I have since come to realize that concealment is as powerful means of safe keeping as a combination lock. I hate to say it, but I've known some bad company in my youth that could devise means to detach a safe from a vehicle pretty quickly . . .
Just some 411 . . .
Playboypenguin
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And you point is if he had simply stuck his belongings in a coffee can under the bed they would not have been looted??? I think the more realistic way to look at it is that the harder it is to steal the less likely it will be to be stolen.
Really? and ust how would you do it? And how likely would you be to be walking around with the materials to do and and the time to get away with it???
Respectfully (because it is really an innovative idea you had) the "point" is they went strait for the safe . . .
Ironically the rest of the house didn't seem that molested. That is not to say they didn't look, but ironically if some of his prized possession were simply hidden under the couch he would most likely still have them.
"Really? and ust how would you do it? And how likely would you be to be walking around with the materials to do and and the time to get away with it???"
LOL. I didn't say that I could. But since you are asking, a small drill and a dremel tool would be a good start. Maybe if the bolts are visible on the vehicles underside. Or Option two might be a crowbar + small hammer. Slip the edge in between the safe and floor and a few brisk tugs later (it just might) come loose. Any more suggestions might be incriminating.
Ironically the rest of the house didn't seem that molested. That is not to say they didn't look, but ironically if some of his prized possession were simply hidden under the couch he would most likely still have them.
"Really? and ust how would you do it? And how likely would you be to be walking around with the materials to do and and the time to get away with it???"
LOL. I didn't say that I could. But since you are asking, a small drill and a dremel tool would be a good start. Maybe if the bolts are visible on the vehicles underside. Or Option two might be a crowbar + small hammer. Slip the edge in between the safe and floor and a few brisk tugs later (it just might) come loose. Any more suggestions might be incriminating.
Playboypenguin
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I guess banks and jewelry stores should stop using safes. Theives go right for them.
C'mon...surely you see the faulty logic in that whole premise. Even if somebody does have their safe targeted that does not change the thousands of instances where a safe prevented theft.
In other words. The chance is almost non-existent. Whereas the chance of someone getting stuff out my car without the safe are pretty high.
Just sharing some life experience thats all. Take it with a grain of salt if you like. Our homes however are a far cry from banks and jewelry stores. And if you think the chance is almost non-existent, thats a very good thing, because it means you probably have never been in with the wrong crowd.
At present, about a year ago, there were some dumb kids stealing rims off of cars while they were still in there driveways. Seriously, they would just jack up the cars in the middle of the night and carry off the rims. The REALLY EXPENSIVE ones. Stuff happens, and if all else fails simply stealing the car in order to spend some more time with the safe in the back seat is always an option too.
But, if you live in a decent town (I used to not so sure any more) it is true, the odds are you will (most likely) never have a problem. To each his own.
Like I said just some 411 . . . Have a nice evening.
At present, about a year ago, there were some dumb kids stealing rims off of cars while they were still in there driveways. Seriously, they would just jack up the cars in the middle of the night and carry off the rims. The REALLY EXPENSIVE ones. Stuff happens, and if all else fails simply stealing the car in order to spend some more time with the safe in the back seat is always an option too.
But, if you live in a decent town (I used to not so sure any more) it is true, the odds are you will (most likely) never have a problem. To each his own.
Like I said just some 411 . . . Have a nice evening.
parrothead2581
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Don't leave the gun in the safe at the end of the day. Even if they don't know it's there, auto theft happens, and that discovery would just be icing on the cake.
Like penguin said, it's difficult to see from the outside. I don't see any reason to not keep it covered, and thus deter any prying eyes.
I'd like to add I don't store my handgun in here 24/7. The safe is for those times you arrive somewhere to find a "30.06" no handguns sign
I applaud anyones attempt to better secure their handgun, and I wasn't trying to claim my method was any better than anyone else's. I found a secure way that worked for me, and wanted to share my find with others. One less handgun in the hands of a criminal is a message worth delivering.
There is not one method that guarantee's prevention of theft, only the delay of the theft. In my instance my alarm would be sounding, which hopefully would also deter someone who faced the task of trying to bust open my safe. Playboypenguin claimed my safe was a mere "hidden money box", sadly without ever seeing it in person, or even asking some questions about it before commenting. This safe was originally developed for use by LEO's (and still forms the majority of their sales according to the person I spoke to). I currently live in LA, but will be moving home to Texas (DFW area) July 5th - if you are considering Console Vault safe and live in any of these area's then drop me a PM and I'll let you hook up and see it yourself.
I say any method is better than no method - damn, given the option between a money box bolted to the frame or using the glove box - I know which one I would choose.
I applaud anyones attempt to better secure their handgun, and I wasn't trying to claim my method was any better than anyone else's. I found a secure way that worked for me, and wanted to share my find with others. One less handgun in the hands of a criminal is a message worth delivering.
There is not one method that guarantee's prevention of theft, only the delay of the theft. In my instance my alarm would be sounding, which hopefully would also deter someone who faced the task of trying to bust open my safe. Playboypenguin claimed my safe was a mere "hidden money box", sadly without ever seeing it in person, or even asking some questions about it before commenting. This safe was originally developed for use by LEO's (and still forms the majority of their sales according to the person I spoke to). I currently live in LA, but will be moving home to Texas (DFW area) July 5th - if you are considering Console Vault safe and live in any of these area's then drop me a PM and I'll let you hook up and see it yourself.
I say any method is better than no method - damn, given the option between a money box bolted to the frame or using the glove box - I know which one I would choose.
It's not a bad idea. I used to keep a safe in a van for times when In had to go into someplace where concealed carry is verboten.
Pretty heavy duty. It used a key, but I wasn't keeping it in there for ready access. And it sells for $40 or $50 an wallyworld.
http://www.sentrysafe.com/products/productDetail.aspx?s=128&WT.si_n=ShoppingCart&WT.si_p=CartView
Pretty heavy duty. It used a key, but I wasn't keeping it in there for ready access. And it sells for $40 or $50 an wallyworld.
http://www.sentrysafe.com/products/productDetail.aspx?s=128&WT.si_n=ShoppingCart&WT.si_p=CartView
I tell you what I like that safe playboypenguin. In a small pickup that is a single cab that is perfect easy accsess your fingers can do the walking with the keypad. Lift the armrest/console up and its completely hidden in the dark. That one pony posted im just not a big fan of cause in a small pickup if someone breaks in the grab whats on the seat and in the console & glove compartment, they dont usually look behind the seat. I know my trucks been broken into 3 times. and if they seen that in the console theyld be sure to come back and try again. Good Job Playboypenguin you got me considering one now.
Playboypenguin
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I think Pony's safe will most likely do the job too...since the vast majority are going to be snatch and grab burglaries. Anything that locks them out or takes a second to find will probably be sufficient.
I just like the thicker tumbler style safe because even if the have a small prybar, screwdriver, and hammer they are still not getting into it quick or easy. Plus, my way is so much cheaper and more palatable for myself and other cheapskates like me.
I just like the thicker tumbler style safe because even if the have a small prybar, screwdriver, and hammer they are still not getting into it quick or easy. Plus, my way is so much cheaper and more palatable for myself and other cheapskates like me.