I Give Up!

Glass bedding and pillar bedding is not a particularly hard task. Once you have done one you will never pay for someone else to do it again. I just pillar bedded and free floated my M70 for $55.00.
 
he could try a little tape on the forend to put some pressure on the barrel
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This was my plan. If the rifle still doesn't shoot like it used to (with pressure on the barrel) after free floating, pillar and glass bedding I'll stack some plastic tape until it does.
 
Before you bed

look up bedding the action with a piece of thin leather. leather will grip better and stop vibration in the receiver. before you do something perminant give it a try. Good luck Chris
 
So Warbirdlover, when do you expect to get the gun back? From what I have read about this project I believe glass bedding is going to fix the problem but I'm curious to know if it does or not.
 
Can I ask why you changed stocks in the first place? Seems like a lot of work and expense to fix something that wasn't busted.
 
I had some real bad luck with Nikon Optics FYI. Detached reticle, got another one back and the erector spring broke. They cost me a couple of nice deer and now I won't buy another one. Put a Ziess on the rifle and it groups about 0.5 to 0.75" at 100 with zero issues to date.
 
I hated the paddle stock for these reasons:

1. You couldn't just buy a sling and clip it on. It had those goofy, NOISY, rattling built in loop things and you had to jury rig the sling to get it on.

2. It kicked like a mule (.300 Win Mag) and even putting a limbsaver pad on it didn't help much. The Boyds stock tamed the recoil down to easily manageable without adding weight.

3. It looked like garbage. Ugliest stock I've ever seen. It was kind of unique at first but the look of it got old real quick (almost 20 years). :p

The scope is okay. If it weren't I couldn't go 12 clicks up and have the POI raise exactly 3". I am a Nikon scope fan.
 
Id buy a bedding kit with pillars from midway and do it myself if i were you. Its actually pretty easy and they include a how to dvd. I had about 15 hours into mine
 
Id buy a bedding kit with pillars from midway and do it myself if i were you. Its actually pretty easy and they include a how to dvd. I had about 15 hours into mine
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Just don't forget to apply some release. :D

I would try another brand of ammo before giving up. I would slso check the scope mounts one more time. I know the stock is different than what you had. But wierd thiungs can happen.

Hows the recoil on this stock? you getting a little off on the tiggerr pull, I mean jerking it? I have a light '06 I had to learn to shoot though the recoil, painful as it was.I removed the pressure point and relieved the barrel vhannel which free floated thebarrel. Started shooting much better after that.
 
Glassing it won't hurt any thing, at this point your investment should only improve accuracy. If it dosen't put the paddle back on it and you still have a nice looking piece of fire wood:). Sorry Warbird I just had to say that even if your a nice guy.
 
Id buy a bedding kit with pillars from midway and do it myself if i were you. Its actually pretty easy and they include a how to dvd. I had about 15 hours into mine
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Ruger77's are not the easiest rifles to bed.
 
Taylorce1 : please explain. Ive heard the whole rugers dont do good with a floated barrel. Why would they be any harder?
 
I've checked all the obvious things I've found in the past 50 years of shooting, loose mounts, bad scopes, etc etc. The rifle always loved CoreLoks and that's what I've been feeding it. It's already at Gander being bedded so I won't be buying bedding kits. Recoil is much less on this stock and I'm not recoil sensitive. I never flinch. I practice once in awhile at the range when someone is with me having them load or NOT load the rifle while I have my eyes shut. Then I shoot it downrange after sighting on the target with my eyes shut. If you're going to flinch you'll flinch then for sure. Never do. I aim and squeeze and don't worry about the noise (I'm deaf anyway) and recoil. Also tried Winchester ammo btw. I get 3 tight together and then a flyer. POI doesn't change. Just those one or two wild shots that can't be explained. A bad scope wouldn't act like that. Wild shots are NOT THAT wild either. Just an inch or two from the rest. It's GOT to be in the bedding or the barrel pressure or none pressure. I've got all summer to figure it out. Nothing else to do... :D
 
If it shot good before then I would say it's 90% chance a bedding issue, and glassing the stock should cure it. Sorry about the fire wood joke:)
 
I've checked all the obvious things I've found in the past 50 years of shooting, loose mounts, bad scopes, etc etc. The rifle always loved CoreLoks and that's what I've been feeding it. It's already at Gander being bedded so I won't be buying bedding kits. Recoil is much less on this stock and I'm not recoil sensitive. I never flinch. I practice once in awhile at the range when someone is with me having them load or NOT load the rifle while I have my eyes shut. Then I shoot it downrange after sighting on the target with my eyes shut. If you're going to flinch you'll flinch then for sure. Never do. I aim and squeeze and don't worry about the noise (I'm deaf anyway) and recoil. Also tried Winchester ammo btw. I get 3 tight together and then a flyer. POI doesn't change. Just those one or two wild shots that can't be explained. A bad scope wouldn't act like that. Wild shots are NOT THAT wild either. Just an inch or two from the rest. It's GOT to be in the bedding or the barrel pressure or none pressure. I've got all summer to figure it out. Nothing else to do...

good deal. i bedded my 700 last weekend. while i was in the middle of it i made the decision to buy a savage .17hmr. i had been planning to replace the vortex 4x12 that was on my 700 with a 6x20 at tax time. so i made the decision to move the 4x12 to the .17 the day i got it. its killing me not knowing how the 700 is gonna shoot! ive gotta wait one more week and i get the scope. the good news is, ill have enough time to press some more bullets before then
 
Taylorce1 : please explain. Ive heard the whole rugers dont do good with a floated barrel. Why would they be any harder?
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The angled recoil lug is the main problem with bedding a Ruger 77. It can be done but if a person is going to bed a rifle for the first time the it would be better to learn on a different action. Plus with the way the Ruger is designed it is easy to put stresses on the barreled action even with a bedding job, as without pillars you will still compress the stock due to the recoil lug. There are pillar kits available at Brownell's but again I still say Rugers are a bit of a PITA to bed.
 
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