How much ammo do you carry daily

Good statistical point. That is a tendency to judge the average score (mean, median) as the number that will occur most of the time. Also, there is a tendency to avoid evaluating the lower prob. of a higher intensity incident.

Where in the risk continuum do you make a cut? Standard stat. question if you know statistics.

It's pretty clear that one reload for the primary EDC is easy to do and probably includes most of the risk intensity distribution.

The lower end of the one reload confidence interval is 10 rounds (a J and a speed loader/strip) to about 30-34 with a semi and hi-cap mag.

It's the same with distance - I only practice at 3 yards because, blah, blah - when there have been longer range fights but with a lower prob. - but it happens.
 
Also, I would be interested in seeing a study relating to the 'ratio' of those that carry extra ammo and those that do not (be it LE or CCW) relative to the demographics/crime rates of their particular environment? I would imagine that such might play a factor in the ammo capacity equation (rightly or wrongly).
 
24 total rounds.

17 9mm in a CZ-75bd. (16 + 1)
7 .380 in a Ruger LCP. (6 + 1)

Can't imagine a scenario where I would need that much. Just carry 2 to prepare for a variety of scenarios.
 
My propensity for lots of ammo comes from my 23 years with the US Border Patrol. Most of our shootouts are at a much greater distance that typical SD shootings or other LE shooting, and back up can be a LONG way away.
 
Training needed

I also agree with the training needed aspect of the argument and would like to add that whenever possible, you should practice your reloads if you plan on carrying additional ammo.

That may have been expressed already though as I didn't read through all nine pages of posts and only read over the last few.
 
Five rounds of .44 Special. Which equals 1,000 grains of lead. So it's almost like having about 9 rounds of 9mm. ;)

I'll occasionally carry a speed strip with an extra five. But if I have time to reload, I probably have time to GTFO.
 
Or you've put the attacker out of the fight, possibly using all or most of your rounds, and now you stand around waiting for the cops with an empty (or nearly empty) .44, hoping they arrive before the BG's friends do.
 
I am curious, we have discussed how much ammo you carry on a daily basis.
I have, as well as others have explained why we carry as much ammo as we do based on training and experience. Let us not call it spare ammo, as we know there is no such thing. we have discussed that a gun is just a part of a self defense system or strategy, not THE option.

What I would like to know is; For those who carry no reload, why? What is the basis for your decision? What training or experience do you have that indicates you only will need X amount of ammo. I have seen gunfights that were solved with 2 or 3 hits, I have seen those that took many times that. I have seen gunfights where guns have been shot and made inoperable. I also think that it boils down to why do YOU carry a gun for self defense to some extent.

I admit freely that when it gets hot, above 85 degrees and 60% or so humidity I get lazy and only carry 1 extra mag for my Glock, and one speed strip or moon clip for my back-up. I know its hot like that almost year round some places in the country, I lived in Texas for 15 years.
 
I don't carry every day because employer has the buildings posted with the proper "No Guns" signs, and I don't want to leave my gun in the truck all the time.

When I do carry, I have one reload for whatever gun I'm using that day. If it's a revolver (it's usually a revolver) the ammo is in a speed strip instead of a speed loader because it fits in my pocket better.

Every once in a while (like on "Sanctity of Human Life" Sunday at church) I carry a BUG, and a reload for it too.
 
zxcvbob

I don't carry every day because employer has the buildings posted with the proper "No Guns" signs, and I don't want to leave my gun in the truck all the time...
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I guess we will never really 'know' but I wonder how many people do carry even if restricted at work (say a small mouse-gun or the like)?

Disclaimer: I'm not advocating such I am just curious...

-Cheers
 
zxcvbob

I don't carry every day because employer has the buildings posted with the proper "No Guns" signs, and I don't want to leave my gun in the truck all the time...
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get a bulldog vault for while your at work. that way when you leave you will have your gun in case you ever need it.

I guess we will never really 'know' but I wonder how many people do carry even if restricted at work (say a small mouse-gun or the like)?

Disclaimer: I'm not advocating such I am just curious...
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quite a few id think! i dont myself. i leave mine in a safe in my car but i have plenty buddies who carry everyday at their job even though they arent supposed too
 
Nanuk said:
What I would like to know is; For those who carry no reload, why? What is the basis for your decision? What training or experience do you have that indicates you only will need X amount of ammo. I have seen gunfights that were solved with 2 or 3 hits, I have seen those that took many times that. I have seen gunfights where guns have been shot and made inoperable. I also think that it boils down to why do YOU carry a gun for self defense to some extent.
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I carry no reloads because the odds of my having to use any of the rounds in my carry gun are very small. The odds of me needing to use all of them and wishing I had more are infinitesimally small.

But then, I've been walking this earth for more than 50 years and have never been within hearing distance of a gunfight. I intend to do my best to spend the remainder of my days without hearing one too.

I can understand how people with law enforcement or military backgrounds who have gone into the thick of things would have a different opinion.
 
Nanuk

What I would like to know is; For those who carry no reload, why? What is the basis for your decision? What training or experience do you have that indicates you only will need X amount of ammo. I have seen gunfights that were solved with 2 or 3 hits, I have seen those that took many times that. I have seen gunfights where guns have been shot and made inoperable. I also think that it boils down to why do YOU carry a gun for self defense to some extent.
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I concede that I don't feel right with only my 5 shot revolver with no reload or backup gun. However, the least amount I would have is 5 357 shots and then a backup gun via 38 derringer 2 shots. I do not feel naked with that arrangement. now sometimes I will have a speedloader instead of the derringer or even my six shot revolver, but honestly I feel more comfortable with the NY reload via derringer than a reload. you can substitute any weapon so those that disagree can maybe leave the derringer alone, but part of my reasoning is this as my explanation is getting wordy:

1)I don't feel naked with only 5 shots and no NY reload or speedloader....however, i concede this can pose an issue and I don't prefer that circumstance though I have done it multiple times.

2)I feel comfortable when at my bare minimum of a primary 357 with 5 shots and a backup gun via a 38 derringer as a new york reload. I like that better than the speedloader. it is "ready to go". not only that, sometimes people can get trigger happy and empty their ammo...having another weapon stops this cycle as I change weapons. I'm talking close quarter markmanship here...other wise as mentioned I'm getting the heck out too or holing up. I'm not planning on having a gunfight from behind a car or something...pretty much your done if that happens anyways. one dude will just put you in his sights and wait for your rambo head to pop up again.

I hope that helps. I guess if one feels comfortable they feel comfortable. I'm guessing some people with tons of ammo still might not be at peace. it goes both ways and not mentioning any posts..I'm speaking in general terms only. Someone might feel comfortable with a mouse gun or 2 shot derringer in their purse. personally their comfort zone would be different than mine...I wouldn't want to pull out that in a fight unless I absoloutely had to because I want to live
 
I rarely carry reloads mostly just due to the inconvenience. Loaded mags are heavy, and I don't like having to wear my belt tight enough to compensate, and I need my pockets for the things I actually use on a daily basis (billfold, keys, flashlight, knife etc).
While there is a small chance that I might someday need a spare mag, there are also chances that any one of a million other things could go wrong.
We all weigh the risks and the hassles, and draw a line somewhere, and for me - most of the time - that line involves carrying a small pistol, but no reloads. Sometimes I don't carry at all, and sometimes I have a spare mag/speedloader, but most of the time not.
I rely much more on my size, the way I carry myself, and my obvious lack of money to deter attackers than my gun.

That being said, I certainly understand why some people feel the need for spares. If I lived in an urban, or even suburban area I might feel differently. If - God forbid - I ever have to use my gun, I may come out the other side feeling differently, but for now I feel perfectly comfortable - both mentally and physically - with the one mag.
 
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