Hillary is Running

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I pray with all my might that she becomes the nominee and then by NY state law has to resign her senate seat!

At this point she is the best hope for really unifying the right.
 
IF a lisping sissy like Gore and a guy like John the Gigolo can get so close, it'd be naive and foolish to think that Hillary couldn't get elected. Many, many folks, including lots of "traditional" Republicans, are truly pissed off about the war in Iraq.

And yes, a Libertarian vote is a wasted vote, unless you're really wanting to get Hillary in, just to "show the sheeple" what hell can really be like.
 
Hillary AND Obama will have (hell, they DO have) the media eating out of their hands, ala like giving candy to a kid. If they play their cards right and team up they can rule the world for 16 years, w/ Soros' backing and literally change the face of this nation and thus the world. How close were the last two presidential elections?

A woman and a black American muslim? Oh happy frikkin day. Running up against...??? The Repubs do not have a single person who could beat that ticket. Not one. Only Arnie has the name recognition to play with the media and he's a no-go.

And the America we knew? History books will be re-written, the sky will fall and cats will be shacking up with dogs. :D

Firearms? Hahahahahaha. Yeah, right. Hello UK. Hello Australia. Howdy Canada. For the children.

But I could be wrong. :rolleyes:
 
A woman and a black American muslim?
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It is not because Hillary is a woman or Obama is black or muslim that I oppose them. Any who would oppose them on such sexist, racist and religious grounds are completely out of line.

There are certainly people who can beat them, I don't know if they will get the nod though. Guliani, although I am not in favor of him, has the leadership track record and name recognition to defeat her. Hillary is so polarizing and hated that the anti-hillary turn out will be huige IF the RNC doesn't manage the election as poorly as Hillary's first senate run when they through the boy wonder Lazio into a meat grinder with what at best could be considerred a flawed strategy from the beginning.

We need real consevative leaders to run against Hillary who has no leadership history and no real accomplishements. THe worst thing we can do is run someone who is simply the other side of the same coin as that will cause the Hate Hillary crowd to stay home.
 
The majority voters will only have two things on their mind on election day in 2008...

Republican or Democrat. Doesn't matter what name you stick behind it. We are guarenteed the lesser of two evils again.
 
Is there a problem with that?
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Not at all. Don't know how either will play in the south, I suspect I know how either or both will fare with activist firearms owners who often vote with one issue at the forefront.
I'd suspect most MD's and those in the medical industry will blanch at Clinton's history of socialized medicine. I suspect most white right wing christians will not be swayed by Obama.
I tend to think that 20+ years of either/or the Bush family and Clintons running the Executive is too much, but name recognition and the temptation of having a woman in office will be hard for 50% +1 of the population to resist.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/23/u...aign 2004/Candidates/John Edwards&oref=slogin
Let the hypotheticals begin. Conventional wisdom may say Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York is the Democrats’ prohibitive front-runner. But a Newsweek poll released over the weekend, which otherwise shows the candidates tightly bunched, indicates that former Senator John Edwards, below, is the only one to beat the top two potential Republican candidates in head-to-head matchups. The poll shows that Mr. Edwards, of North Carolina, Mrs. Clinton and Senator Barack Obama of Illinois all would beat Senator John McCain of Arizona by a few percentage points. But Rudolph W. Giuliani, the former New York mayor, would narrowly defeat Senators Clinton and Obama while losing to Mr. Edwards, 45 percent to 48 percent. But the numbers are all close and fall within the poll’s margin of sampling error of plus or minus four percentage points.
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But that's the NYT's talking and it's early on in a long race and we really don't know who was polled and what questions were asked. It's never too early to begin your own efforts towards and for the candidate of your choice. Gender and color take a backseat to political philosophy and effectiveness based on past performance... not what they say in the upcoming 21 months.
 
I some people, mostly women, that claim they will vote for Hillary because she is female. The only factor they care about is the first female president.

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Time for some humor in this thread.

There is a new political bumper sticker. It says, "Run Hillary, Run" in large letters.

Democrats are buying them up and putting them on the rear bumper to show their support.

Republicans are buying them and putting it on the front bumper.

/:D
 
Don't Dismiss Her

If, I mean a big if she gets the democratic nomination we could be in trouble. Remember, the election is based on the Electoral College system.

Hillary would more then likely carry New York. As New York goes, most of the Northeast will follow. She could also bank on California. Now the South will more then likely be carried by the Republican canidate unless he/she is a total knucklhead.

Like the last two election, this might swing on the results of the Great Lake States.

I figure the GOP canidate could counter many of Clinton's votes by having Rice on the ticket as a VP. This might also help with the minority vote.

Either way, please do not dismiss Hillary. Remember, these folks are ruthless. They will stop at nothing to gain power. They will stop anyone that wants to deny them thier power.

Compare her to a Cape Buffalo. A dangerous beast with little regards to what gets in its way.
 
Oh of course, take the threat seriously. But there is no point to get all worked up until we know if the Dems nominate her. Have the facts for debates and such lined up and waiting. If she does get the nod then we can let loose the dogs of war.
 
Hillary is a F******* evil person. I have done some political work and some other grass roots stuff and in doing so have met people who deal with her on a daily basis. If half the hearsay is true, she will never get elected, if you think the "swift boat ads" were mean spirited, wait till you hear what these people have to say.

She eats up and grinds out staffers like they were 16th century serfs, petty people just to use and abuse. I was told face to face by a US secret service agent that they had to assign people to cover her during her first lady days because the teams were doing everything they could to stay away from her. Usually first lady teams are very very loyal, often staying on way past the white house years, she turned them over like fry cooks at Denny's.

just googling Clinton death list will shock the pee right out of you.

http://www.geocities.com/northstarzone/CLINTON.html


this is a crappy site, but i am tired and it was the first to show the basics, there is no way in a hot place that Hillary can get elected
 
Re:museteer

Good point about the Northeast. But Reagan carried those states.

I will be disappointed and worried if any democrat(liberal) wins the election. But Hillary scares me.
 
Bill Richardson, and Mitt Romney are the only people running, that are pro-gun.
We don't have much of a choice as gun owners in 2008.
Richardson is too conservative for the democrats to nominate, which only leaves Romney as our only hope.
Anybody else will make for a long hard 8yrs.

As for Obama, I will take Hillary any day, to a guy that George Soros supports.:barf:

Just my opinion for what it is worth.

Eric;)
 
Eric, George Soros supports them both. Hillary is just unelectable in the country. She has too much baggage, too many skeletons in her past, and she is just too damn arrogant to admit it. One of her most lethal group of opponents are married women, They detest that she put up with Bill's moral travesties with out sending him on his way. Many view this as her just selling her marriage for the office. Which is funny, as she is widely held to stray from the marriage vows too.

I just keep remembering John Dean's war whoop sending his campaign to the ground in a massive crash and burn. Very Rarely do the candidates get out of Iowa and New Hampshire in the running order that the press puts them in prior to that.

I just say again, Hillary is an Evil effing witch.
 
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