Handgun target thread. How well do you shoot?
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The grid is 1 inch square. The flyer is due to a particular chamber in the cylinder that is a little off. Sights were a little off when I shot this due to a bump in the range bag. Grouping was good though. I've shot better since I shot this about a year ago but I had this pic handy in my phone. This is double action offhand at 25 yards shooting 38 special PMC 132 gn fmj from a six inch GP100.
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g.willikers
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Mighty fine shooting, all.
But without any intended criticism of the talent it takes to make such accurate shots, just gotta' ask:
How quickly were these shots made?
For handguns especially, a component of speed should be an important element of accuracy, shouldn't it?
But without any intended criticism of the talent it takes to make such accurate shots, just gotta' ask:
How quickly were these shots made?
For handguns especially, a component of speed should be an important element of accuracy, shouldn't it?
NoSecondBest
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No, it shouldn't. Accuracy and ability are two different animals. Accuracy is the potential of the gun and ability is the potential of the shooter. The best of both worlds is an accurate gun and a very good shooter.
I shot major competitions for ten years as a sponsored shooter. During that time I was shooting 50,000+ rounds a year of handgun, rifle, and shotgun.....mostly handgun. You will never, I repeat NEVER, be a top shooter without a very accurate gun. First comes accuracy and then you develop speed. Speed is the ability to not miss.... quickly. It's all about economy of motion. Fast and missing is a waste of time.
Cyanide971
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All fired offhand, and unless otherwise noted, new 9mm 124gr Freedom Munitions. Starting with a random grouping from a few months ago with my Beretta PX4 D from 7 to 20 yards:
P-07 from 7 to 20 yards, both single action and double action, and would have been better if I didn't have all those doggone flyers!
P-01 from 7 to 20 yards, both single action and double action:
CZ 100 from 7 to 25 yards. Dang 25 yard flyers got me!
CZ 100, 4 mags, fired as quickly as could reacquire sight picture and reload upon slide lock:
P-07 from 7 to 20 yards, both single action and double action, and would have been better if I didn't have all those doggone flyers!
P-01 from 7 to 20 yards, both single action and double action:
CZ 100 from 7 to 25 yards. Dang 25 yard flyers got me!
CZ 100, 4 mags, fired as quickly as could reacquire sight picture and reload upon slide lock:
g.willikers
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^^^Nice Shootin'.
I wasn't referring to being fast and sloppy.
There's no point in that.
The emphasis on accuracy should always be the goal.
But, in my mind at least (and sometimes a very fuzzy place to be), speed has to be a consideration for good accuracy.
For example, even at my advanced years and deteriorating eyesight, there's no problem hitting a clay bird at 50 yards with handguns.
(One of my favorite things to practice).
But only if I go very slowly and concentrate very hard on the fundamentals.
Try to speed up and forgetaboutit.
But there's plenty of folks who can do that with each and every shot with no more than 1/2 seconds or so between them.
They can be unequivocally be considered accurate shootists.
I wasn't referring to being fast and sloppy.
There's no point in that.
The emphasis on accuracy should always be the goal.
But, in my mind at least (and sometimes a very fuzzy place to be), speed has to be a consideration for good accuracy.
For example, even at my advanced years and deteriorating eyesight, there's no problem hitting a clay bird at 50 yards with handguns.
(One of my favorite things to practice).
But only if I go very slowly and concentrate very hard on the fundamentals.
Try to speed up and forgetaboutit.
But there's plenty of folks who can do that with each and every shot with no more than 1/2 seconds or so between them.
They can be unequivocally be considered accurate shootists.
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I'll play.
All were shot standing, unsupported unless noted otherwise. No time requirement (see vid link at bottom for that). Revolvers were shot double action.
DAO S&W 686, 3 shots, standing (top) and rested (bottom), 10 yards:
Ruger MkIII, 3 shots, standing (top) and rested (bottom), 10 yards:
4" 10-shot S&W 617, 5 shots, 25 yards:
6" S&W K-38, 6 shots, 7 yards, 2-handed (bottom), strong hand only (top right), weak hand only (top left):
And as a nod to g.willikers, El Prez on steel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNFerCV3W4Y
All were shot standing, unsupported unless noted otherwise. No time requirement (see vid link at bottom for that). Revolvers were shot double action.
DAO S&W 686, 3 shots, standing (top) and rested (bottom), 10 yards:
Ruger MkIII, 3 shots, standing (top) and rested (bottom), 10 yards:
4" 10-shot S&W 617, 5 shots, 25 yards:
6" S&W K-38, 6 shots, 7 yards, 2-handed (bottom), strong hand only (top right), weak hand only (top left):
And as a nod to g.willikers, El Prez on steel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNFerCV3W4Y
g.willikers
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It looks like you definitely have both the fundamentals and the speed down.
But can you do that while hanging upside down and using a mirror, while whizzing past the targets on a zip line?
Had to ask.
But can you do that while hanging upside down and using a mirror, while whizzing past the targets on a zip line?
Had to ask.
Cyanide971
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Thanks G. Willikers, but it ain't all that good!
g.willikers
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Very neat, especially the one with the coin balanced on edge.
But these days where does one find a coin?
I did try it with a credit card, but somehow it just wasn't the same.
But these days where does one find a coin?
I did try it with a credit card, but somehow it just wasn't the same.
Bob Wright
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I keep photos of my targets and loading data for reference. Not offhand, but using two hands and standing:
And a "One Shot Group", just couldn't bring myself to shoot at that target anymore!
Bob Wright
And a "One Shot Group", just couldn't bring myself to shoot at that target anymore!
Bob Wright
Waspinator
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Here are some of my targets I had pictures of.
1989 Taurus 669, .357 Mag, 6-shot, 6" barrel. 10 yards. Slow firing in double action. One cylinder worth.
1991 Ruger SP101, .22LR, 6-shot, 4" barrel. 10 yards. moderate rate of fire in double action. 5 cylinders worth.
2013 Bersa Thunder Pro Ultra Compact, 9mm, 10-shot, 3.25" barrel. 10 yards. Fast rate of fire (mag dumps). 4 magazines worth.
Below,A few targets useing my firearm instructors guns.
Year Unknown, S&W 5906, 9mm. 7 yards. slow rate of fire. 5 rounds only.
Year unknown. S&W 686 (no lock), 357 mag. , 7-shot, 4" barrel. 7 yards. moderate rate of fire in double action. two cylinders worth.
1989 Taurus 669, .357 Mag, 6-shot, 6" barrel. 10 yards. Slow firing in double action. One cylinder worth.
1991 Ruger SP101, .22LR, 6-shot, 4" barrel. 10 yards. moderate rate of fire in double action. 5 cylinders worth.
2013 Bersa Thunder Pro Ultra Compact, 9mm, 10-shot, 3.25" barrel. 10 yards. Fast rate of fire (mag dumps). 4 magazines worth.
Below,A few targets useing my firearm instructors guns.
Year Unknown, S&W 5906, 9mm. 7 yards. slow rate of fire. 5 rounds only.
Year unknown. S&W 686 (no lock), 357 mag. , 7-shot, 4" barrel. 7 yards. moderate rate of fire in double action. two cylinders worth.
Cyanide971
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Nice shooting, everyone!
Guess I need to take pictures of my targets! Just last Saturday I shot 30 rounds at a B27 silhouette target. Using a Beretta 92FS and 115gr CCI Blazer Brass. 10 rounds at 5 yards, 10 rounds at 7 yards, and 10 rounds at 10 yards. All shots in the X-ring. I usually slip a couple into the 10 ring, but did good that day.
Nice shooting all. Especially like that coin video. And even getting shots on paper with an lcp at 25 yards is impressive. g.willikers here's some timed shots for you. This is a 12 shot group at 10 yards using a GP100 shooting 38 special. All shots are double action. This includes a draw, six shots, reload using an hks speedloader and then empty the cylinder again. Center dot has a one inch diameter. This was shot in 14.1 seconds.
