Handgun Construction Methods and Materials

Is your handgun a Rolex or a Timex?

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I have Seiko's and Tissots and Jacques Lemans and Casios. My dad who is a jeweler of 30 years + told me Rolex don't keep time so well. I believe him.
My gun is a Ruger. I don't know if thats a casio or a seiko, but it works for me. Wild is right. some of us only have 1 carry weapon.
 
Larvatus said:
...by disparaging polished aristocratic badges of rank engendered by the old regime...
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Interestingly, both "polished badges of rank" you cite were selected by bureaucrats to equip conscript armies, while the ugly, painted tool in my holster was hand-assembled to my specification by a skilled craftsman, with parts selected by me, to include even the custom tint of the bake-on finish.

I own several weapons once carried in the holsters of overbred Cocker Spaniel studs afflicted with Hapsburg jaw; any residual woo-woo clinging to them seems to unaffect their performance as self-defense tools. :p :rolleyes:
 
Would you entrust your life to a Rolex or a Timex?
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Timex. "Takes a licking and keeps on ticking".

And Rugers with investment cast parts. Well maybe not my cheap P90, we all know how weak they are built.:)

I expect my mini-14, GP100, or Speed Six to blow up any day now.:D

PS. I answered because I admit am a sucker for polls, but is there a point to this thread?
 
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My dad who is a jeweler of 30 years + told me Rolex don't keep time so well. I believe him.
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Good. They dont...compared to a digital :)

I own several weapons once carried in the holsters of overbred Cocker Spaniel studs afflicted with Hapsburg jaw; any residual woo-woo clinging to them seems to unaffect their performance as self-defense tools.
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Stey Hahns? Femarus? Frommer Stops? mannlichers? Those ARE aesthetic woo woo.....:p

As to their use as self defense tools? Hell, even the Russians beat the Austro Hungarians:eek::D

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Viz: Charles II

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Interestingly, both "polished badges of rank" you cite were selected by bureaucrats to equip conscript armies, while the ugly, painted tool in my holster was hand-assembled to my specification by a skilled craftsman, with parts selected by me, to include even the custom tint of the bake-on finish.
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The recipients of the DWM P08 Parabellum and the Radom Vis 35 certainly regarded them as appurtenances of nobility. I am sorry that you cannot see any virtues in their worldview.

ObMovie: La grande illusion.
 
Wildalaska said:
Stey Hahns? Femarus? Frommer Stops? mannlichers?
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Well, I have a Frommer Stop. I was putting points on my artistic license. :p

Although, for woo-woo, it's hard to beat my Webley .455 Auto. It makes Georg Luger's finest look like the fussy, slightly flimsy piece of cuckoo clock innards that it truly was.
 
Larvatus said:
The recipients of the DWM P08 Parabellum and the Radom Vis 35 certainly regarded them as appurtenances of nobility.
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Cannon cockers? Assistant machinegunners? Cavalry corporals?

I'm sure that when Hans was called to the colors from his Bavarian goat farm to lug ammo for a Maxim '08, he felt quite the Junker when they handed him his Luger.
 
It makes Georg Luger's finest look like the fussy, slightly flimsy piece of cuckoo clock innards that it truly was.
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Which is why Georgies flimsy fought in two wars in a major capacity, while the auto Webster is rare 'cuz so many got tossed away:p

Now my Mark VI is still going strong...hell, just the other day I peppered the Bloody 'un in a trench raid (OK I shot up a paper plate at the range but I'm allowed an artistic license too)

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Wildalaska said:
Which is why Georgies flimsy fought in two wars in a major capacity, while the auto Webster is rare 'cuz so many got tossed away:p
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I never said it was cheap to make, plus the British took another forty years to really warm up to self-loading pistols. (Although like most British handguns, the ergonomics suggest that it was designed by someone who had not only never fired a pistol, but didn't much like them, either. Built like a bank vault, though...)
 
Ya mean where Ron Smith decides to claim that castings are equal because he is now using them:p

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Although like most British handguns, the ergonomics suggest that it was designed by someone who had not only never fired a pistol, but didn't much like them, either.
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Don't ya be dissing the Mark VI...after all, if it wasnt good, Michael Caine wouldnt have been able to beat off the Zulus at Rourkes Drift.....

They dont have to be reloaded either:p

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You guys are just trying to dance around the ultimate point here...

The SIG 210 RULZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!

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Incidentally, my handguns are neither Rolexes nor Timexes nor Voodoo Dolls nor Avatars of my Self-Image: They're fricken' pistols. :p
 
From Chicago Tex,
I want to reply to your poll, but you're being so coy with your metaphors that I'm not sure anyone has any idea what the hell you're really talking about (I know I don't).

Come out and say what you're gonna say.
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Lavartus means to say that if it ain't a Sig P210 it ain't much. He also means to say he believes he knows more than we do. And that Sir Edmund Hillary's Rolex and Patek wearing social class is ever so much cooler and sophisticated than mine.

From MadMag,
I answered because I admit am a sucker for polls, but is there a point to this thread?
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Not really, other than to provide the op the opportunity to be snarky, provocative and troll like.

If the OP was serious he'da asked a question like "Do you believe a cast frame gun can be as strong and useful as a forged?"

Or something like "Do you believe in buying the best gun money can buy for the task you want to put it to or will a less expensive gun of moderate quality do?"

Or he coulda just asked "Do you think I'm smart and you're dumb cuz I believe the Sig P210 is the best handgun in the world?"

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I own two watches.......a Timex that dosen't keep time, and Bulova that was given to me at work and goes thru a battery month......................so what does this have to do with my selection of firearms?
 
Well there is a ton of things here to talk about; most of which go to complete and utter absurd nature of the question.

First to dispel one thing – Hillary wore a Rolex because they were the BEST time keeping technology OF THE PERIOD. Were he alive today and about to attempt the same feat he might select any number of other perhaps better options in terms of time keeping precession and or durability.

Second Rolex has degraded to a mere status symbol, nothing more. There is frankly no good reason why they should cost what they do today and they have been de-contented to the point of nearly being non-functional for their intended use. I say this having owned a Sea Dweller since oh say 1988. Rolex once represented a company on the cutting edge with technology relevant to the day. The need for this technology has largely gone away and instead of keeping true to their heritage they have gone down the road of mere shells of models that once had a point. Take any of their sport watches; in the days of tritium one could read these watches after 10 hours of darkness. The modern luminova watches are useless after an hour or two. No one cares as the people who buy them do not use them. Time was Rolexes were sold to many officers in the armed services; now they have priced them sky high for the sake of “luxury” branding. I should have never sold my SD 2000 and if anyone wants a M series SD 4000 I’ll make you a heck of a deal.

Third the notion that a Rolex is equivalent to say a 1911 which seems to be the point here is dumb as unless one talks of a given model of Rolex we could be talking a lot of things --- an 18kt gold dive watch is hardly something I would consider “durable” or compare to a 1911. A sea dweller maybe.

In addition all of this worship of mechanical precession and fine machine work is kind of misplaced as the Rolex movement is only a piece of high artwork if you consider a mass produced, durable mechanical movement an example of the art. It is a great movement don’t get me wrong but it is the Chevy 350 of the watch world --- hard to kill, easy to re-build and can be made to do many things well. Still not as durable as many non-mechanical movements.

Get to know some higher end movements if you really want to look at horologic “art”. Furthermore your precious Rolex movement has aluminum winding gears of all things. I don’t know why but years ago Rolex figured out these work well for their movement yet any purist would be repulsed by a aluminum gear in a Swiss watch? Yet they made the choice because it does the job well.

Oh and as to the top 100 watch brands – ever research that a little? Other than Patek and Rolex most of those “brands” are owned by a few large conglomerates and most the their models are fancy cases housing generic ETA movements. So what is the state of Swiss watches? Certainly not to tell time or solve some technical problem or need --- it’s to sell status symbols to sophomoric fools who worry obsessively about such things.

As to guns, or watches guess what, they are tools with a job to do. You can pick a nicer tool that looks or feels good or maybe even works better in some objective way but at the end of the day they are tools with a job to do. Different choices get made by people for various reasons – a lighter or cheaper gun or a gun that will last generations or whatever. Few black or white answers here – just trade offs. You obviously have a favorite gun maker --- want to pony a factory stock example up for a trail against a lock, sig,, 1911 or whatever? Beautiful and absolute engineering don’t do squat if they thing does not go bang when it needs to. Just like a broke Rolex is a ton less useful than a working Timex. So you take your choice and pay your price.
 
if anyone wants a M series SD 4000 I’ll make you a heck of a deal.
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How much:D

Ill tell ya one thing...I have had a Rolex on my wrist since 1981....any Timex owners still have theirs:eek::p

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