Hammer fired polymer guns, what's out there?

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DMK

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I just ordered a CZ P-07 this weekend and will hopefully get it in hand tomorrow or Wednesday. For those who don't know, it's a Glock 19 sized hammer fired polymer handgun. That's kind of an unusual configuration isn't it?

What other hammer fired polymer guns are out there? If you have one of any brand, how do you like it?
 
Beretta PX4 various sizes
CZ P07/P09 (you mentioned already)
FN FNP/m
FN FNX
HK USP/c
HK P2000/sk
HK P30/sk/L
HK 45/c
IWI Jericho (polymer frame models)
Ruger P series
Ruger Security 9
SIG SP2009/2022/2340
SIG P250
Springfield XDe
STI (different models)
S&W 380 EZ
S&W Bodyguard 380
Walther PPX/Creed

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Looks like a pretty complete list there.
The only CZ I owned was a plain CZ75B, but that was an all steel anchor. (good gun though)
Love my 1995 USP 45. Super reliable, accurate and soft shooting. Looks like a beast.
What I like most is that it shoots my SWC handloads so well.
Still have just the 2 original 10 round Klinton mags.
 
Add the Star UltraStar:

Sig P2009 top; Star UltraStar below:
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The Star UltraStar is a great gun, but parts and magazines may be a problem. (That said, except for extractors, the Star guns have been very durable.)

Stars have been out of production for many years, and there weren't a lot of Star UltraStars produced, so Numrich and other used part suppliers will not have a big inventory.
 
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Hammer fired and polymer: Smith & Wesson .380 EZ

This one is a good trivia question, because most people think the .380 EZ is striker fired.
 
CZ clones & derivatives (EAA Witness Polymer, Rock Island MAPP, Sarsilmaz B/C/K series)
Rock River Poly 1911
 
I like HKs for hammer fired poly frame pistols. My SIG SP2022 is quite nice too.

I use my P30SK LEM for CCW occasionally and like that it can take 10 and 13 round magazines.

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I would prefer the longer pull of a DAO handgun to the striker fired.

The end of the process, no matter how many safeties that you have on a gun, is can you accidentally slide a finger into the guard and set the pistol off with a few ounces of pressure?

A DAO semiauto is no different than a DA revolver, which has no safety. Accidentally dragging that long trigger pull to the point that it fires is not simple. Can that be said about a glock?

There was a guy who shot himself in the nards with a glock while at home depot. Apparently his glock was sharing his underwear with the aforementioned niblets. I am having a real problem believing that it would have happened if he had been carrying a detective special.
 
briandg said:
I would prefer the longer pull of a DAO handgun to the striker fired.

The end of the process, no matter how many safeties that you have on a gun, is can you accidentally slide a finger into the guard and set the pistol off with a few ounces of pressure?

A DAO semiauto is no different than a DA revolver, which has no safety. Accidentally dragging that long trigger pull to the point that it fires is not simple. Can that be said about a glock?

There was a guy who shot himself in the nards with a glock while at home depot. Apparently his glock was sharing his underwear with the aforementioned niblets. I am having a real problem believing that it would have happened if he had been carrying a detective special.
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Right, but the real answer there is not allow garments into your trigger guard. That's what holsters are for. Are other designs more tolerant of this? Yeah I can agree with that. But if something manages to exert 5.5 lb on the face of the trigger (far more than a few ounces) then I feel the issue is more shooter error.

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The end of the process, no matter how many safeties that you have on a gun, is can you accidentally slide a finger into the guard and set the pistol off with a few ounces of pressure?

A DAO semiauto is no different than a DA revolver, which has no safety. Accidentally dragging that long trigger pull to the point that it fires is not simple. Can that be said about a glock?
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I'm not likely to get my finger in the trigger guard while holstering (always index it up as high as you can), but getting clothing, part of the holster or some foreign object in there is possible. Especially in a holster behind your hip where it's difficult to see.

Actually that is the main reason I bought my P07. I wanted a fully modern gun that allowed me the ability to push my thumb on the hammer as I holster it.

There are striker fired guns that allow you to do this where the striker protrudes out the rear when the trigger is pressed. There is also the Glock Striker Control Device rear end plate that allows you to do this.
 
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Many of the .380 pocket pistols are hammer-fired, the hammers are merely shrouded.

The best hammer-fired, polymer-framed pistols are the H&K USP series, which was originally designed for the USMC, but the Beretta PX4 series is also very good.
 
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Actually that is the main reason I bought my P07. I wanted a fully modern gun that allowed me the ability to push my thumb on the hammer as I holster it.

There are striker fired guns that allow you to do this where the striker protrudes out the rear when the trigger is pressed. There is also the Glock rear end plate that allows you to do this.
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While I get the idea, regardless of the trigger system I am clearing my holster before I reholster. Assuming I did that, how is the firearm discharging itself? I get the concept of redundancy, I do, but I've holstered idk how many times now. There hasn't been a time where something magically appeared in my holster that allowed me to both holster the pistol normally (didn't get stuck in the holster and prevent the firearm from seating) and managed to get in my trigger guard to the point where it could apply 5.5-6 lb of pressure to discharge the pistol. I've even tried to intentionally cause this on pistols with snap caps loaded and I haven't had luck.

Most cases I have been able to find of firearms discharging when being holstered are people not actually removing their fingers when holstering (you may laugh but I know of multiple NDs that have been caused by this) or poor holster designs that folded in on themselves and into the trigger guard. A well designed kydex or leather holster won't allow that to happen. I have seen people holster and catch their own garments. I haven't seen an ND from it personally and the takeaway every time was to clear the holster (holstering isn't something to do in a rush).

Again, I get the principle. I carried DA/SA for some time, which is how I came up with that original list because I owned most of those. But I personally feel it is a choice to deal with a risk that with proper gun handling is relatively small (smaller than other risks I perceive).

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