Guns You'd Like To See Produced.

Just dreaming....

1. A six or seven shot J-Frame Smiff in .327 Federal Magnum.

2. Six shot Ruger single action in .454 Casull--I'm thinking 4 5/6 gloss stainless. Could cover every power level from bear defense down to cowboy action loads....

3. A 7.62x25 Tokarev combining the best features of the CZ-52 (50's modern styling, 1911 safety location/ability to de-cock, stronger roller lock action) and the TT-33 (stronger barrel, 1911 style mag release). Maybe add a few modern touches like a double action restrike capability.
 
Ruger New Vaquero in .44 Sp.(With .44-40 spare cyl convertible also). Same in .327/.32-20 convertible. Same in .38-40/.40/10mm convertible.

.327 Single Six

.44 Sp Lipsey's special Blackhawk/Flattop (mid frame) as regular line Ruger production

S&W 3" and 4"K Frame .327 7 shot
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S&W .327 686 8 shot--3" and 4"

S&W J Frame .327

Resurrection of Colt D Frame (Detective Special) in .38, .357 and .327.

Resurrection of the Browning BDM in 9 and adding .40;

Black (blue) and/or coated Dan Wesson CBOB

Long Guns:
.327 lever--Rossi 92 no safety, Marlin, Win--don't care but no boxy clunkers (I.e., prefer 92 design), maybe Armi Sport 92. Win/Browning/Miroku could do worse than to re-enter this arena IF they can also resurrect pre safety/rebound hammer days

Win/Browning 94--no safety, no rebound hammer (at least no rebound)--in good ol' .30-30.

Echo someone else's detach mag Ruger 44 Mag carbine.

Resurrect Ruger PC 9mm, .40, (add .45)--at least 1/2 lb lighter, using hi-cap (15-25) mags.

1/2 lb lighter and slimmed Mini 14 and 30.

Modernized slimmed and lightened (3/4 to 1.5 lb?) M1A1--w/ state of art recoil mgmt to make up for lightening.
 
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357 Auto exists

Visaman said:
A semi-auto .357 magnum pistol that isn't a brick like the Desert Eagle and uses double-stack mags. C'mon, if the Bren machinegun (as well as a host of others) can reliably cycle a rimmed round, then we outta be able to make a gun that can do the same thing now
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I have one, but if you don't have a large hand, the length of the .357 mag cartridge makes the grip too large for most folks. Add the width of a double stack would put it out of the reach of most folks.

Coonan Arms.

Lost Sheep

By the way, Dick Casull, developer of the .454 Casull spells his cartridge's name, "Casull". I don't mean to insult you; I just believe you would want to respect the man who developed a cartridge you admire. I remember in 1978 when Freedom Arms announced the chambering of the Ruger No. 3 single shot carbine for the 454 Casull. I wish I could get one of those in stainless steel today.
 
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The 500 Bill

How about an extended-frame Ruger Super Redhawk chambered for a cartrdige 1/10 inch longer than the .500 Smith & Wesson.

Just for the one-upmanship. Call the cartridge the 500 Bill in memory of Bill Ruger. While they're at it, bring back the Deerstalker (44 mag semi-auto carbine similar in profile to the 10/22) chambered for the 500 Bill, plus the single-shot falling block carbine Ruger #3 in the same chambering.

Lost Sheep
 
Count me in for the p08 for less than $1000.00

and, of course the phasers:)

Since we're wishing, how about a Ruger MKII in 9mm?

One more (lots of edits) how about a decent .22LR single shot rifle in the $100.00 range?
 
9 Shot 22 rimfire revolver

Chamber the SP101 in 22 rimfire for more rounds than the 6 it was originally given.

Bring back the Security Six in .357 and 327 mag (or make a lighter GP100 the same size and weight as the 0Six family, and also chamber as a 9 shot 22. Sell them in a dual pack - Centerfire and rimfire companion/practice piece.

Build a GP100 as a 22 rimfire. Do the same matched pair companion piece trick.

Heck, do the same thing with the Super Redhawk.

Give the standard Redhawk a post-style frame that would use the same grips as the GP100 and Super Redhawk.

Lost Sheep
 
Centerfire version of the Ruger rimfire pistol

Tuger made a big splash in 1948 with the Mark I pistol in rimfire. I have a couple of Mark IIs which I think are GREAT. Now the Mark III exists.

How about a centerfire version? A decent target pistol.

I always thought the Colt 2000 was seriously underappreciated for its innovation. Rotating bolt recoil operated 9mm that should have been offered in .45ACP, but just died on the vine.

Pity.

Lost Sheep
 
DW Barrel on Super Redhawk

I love my Dan Wesson revolvers and the ability to remove the barrels for cleaning, maintenance, changing length or (who wouda thunk it!) twist rate?

If I had the bucks and could get the licensing, I would do it.

Think about it. Take your Super Redhawk in 454 Casull (or chambered for the 500 Bill, - see my earlier post). For hunting that bear, put on your 10" barrel with the fast twist for those heavy slugs. When you go fishing, slip it into your holster wearing the 3.5" compensated one. For caribou and the lighter bullet, install the 14" barrel with the slow twist and the scope rings.

And, if you can stand the product liablity, have more barrels in .357, .44, .475 (480), with matching cylinders and have a really all-around gun (heck, 22 rimfire, too)

Lost Sheep
 
A last-ditch bear defense pistol

I figure if I REALLY have to shoot a bear, the amount of time I have is only going to let me shoot maybe twice. I would like to have a break-action over/under pistol in a large caliber (475 Linebaugh, 500 smith, 460 Smith, 600 Nitro, 458 Winchester 45-70 someting like that).

A two-shot pistol chambered in a cartridge like that would only give me two shots anyway. Once with the right hand, once with the left, then I hike out to have my two broken wrists set.

Lost Sheep.

I know. REALLY lost.

Cushioned grip, 3.5 lbs, 14 or 15" overall length. It might work.
 
I figure if I REALLY have to shoot a bear, the amount of time I have is only going to let me shoot maybe twice. I would like to have a break-action over/under pistol in a large caliber (475 Linebaugh, 500 smith, 460 Smith, 600 Nitro, 458 Winchester 45-70 someting like that).

A two-shot pistol chambered in a cartridge like that would only give me two shots anyway. Once with the right hand, once with the left, then I hike out to have my two broken wrists set.
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Oh, you mean something like a howdah? That's not such a bad idea. And it isn't a new idea, for that matter. Big bore, 2 shot, intended for point defense against VERY dangerous animals. Tigers or lions in the case of the howdahs, but they'd do the job on bears just as well.
 
I hate to say it, but what's with the Fogey Factor? No one wants to see anything new and innovative? No one has any ideas that would improve the industry? Everyone wants to resurrect old models and old calibers that probably fell out of production for a reason.

I know I'll get a lot of heat for this, but anyone under 35 out there? :confused:
 
Small reality check

I know, I know....party pooper:mad:

For all those who asked for an old gun to be remade (the way it was, and at a decent price), sorry, dream on. The reason you have to ask for those guns is the very reason we will never see them. They can't be made, and sold in numbers great enough to keep their makers in business!

Now, maybe if you could get a few dozen thousand friends together and put the money up, you might be able to get one of the makers to do a limited production run, maybe. Or, maybe you could form a company to make them, but in today's economy and social/legal situation, good luck.

Some of the guns/chamberings asked for can be done (some already are being done) but most of them are off the market, or never were on, for good reason. And that reason is money. As in not enough to make it worthwhile for the maker.

That being said, there are dozens of guns/calibers I would love to see offered again/or for the first time, and yes I would buy, if they were (and here's the biggest catch) affordable!

I'd dearly love to see the original Auto Mag pistol reintroduced (with the bugs worked out!), but if the price was $10K per unit, I couldn't get one, nor could very many other people.

To make good guns takes skilled people, although fewer than it did (and with some different skills) a century ago. And these people have to make a living wage (tougher every year), and they have to make that wage week in, week out, year in, year out. Add in all the costs of just operating a manufacturing business (of anything), and then the costs unique to the firearms business, balanced against the actually small profit margin per unit and thats a tremendously difficult thing to do, and make a living at.

Still, its nice to dream, because once in a great while, some dreams actually do come true!
 
I am afraid you are correct, though there were a few good suggestions here and some very surprising suggestions, too, like the interest in the 7.62 Tokarev. But it is certainly very difficult to come up with something really new that hasn't been tried already.

One thing to remember is that while an idea may be new and good, sometimes things fall apart on the execution. In other words, it either doesn't work out quite like it is expected or it doesn't work very well. But sometimes someone picks it up and makes it work well enough to succeed.

But, given the number of new models we have seen (say, from Smith & Wesson), mostly very good but really just variations of a theme, three or four themes, really, you might wonder why there aren't even more. It might be that the gun market isn't what we imagine it to be. Some of the things mentioned here already didn't sell so well back then, either. But there were other reasons.

There have been a few popular models that were very popular and were in production for a hundred years, like the Model 94 Winchester. I like mine but I swear the screws become loose while it is stored in a box. Winchester and others had other variations on lever actions, so it's hard to come up with something new there, though Ruger keeps trying. Theirs won't have a tubular magazine, I'll bet.
 
I am afraid you are correct, though there were a few good suggestions here and some very surprising suggestions, too, like the interest in the 7.62 Tokarev. But it is certainly very difficult to come up with something really new that hasn't been tried already.
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Agreed, about the interest in the Tokarev round. Just the other day at the range, one of the range officers who was working in the shop was carrying a CZ-52. I spotted it and struck up a conversation about it with him. One thing he pointed out was that even as bad as the ammo and reloading supplies situation has been, he's had no problem at all getting milsurp 7.62x25 Tokarev ammo. Might there be a trend to exploit there? One other trend I noticed here on this thread is that much of the interest in the round is from places overseas. Like Pakistan. I suspect that the ammo availability situation over there is quite a bit different than it is here.

Winchester and others had other variations on lever actions, so it's hard to come up with something new there, though Ruger keeps trying. Theirs won't have a tubular magazine, I'll bet.
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And I'll be watching for it. I guess you might have gathered from what I posted earlier that I have a thing for lever actions. I do. But I'd really like for somebody to come out with one that is magazine fed and that isn't a BLR. Bringing back one of the oldie but goodies would be appreciated. Bringing out a new offering would be appreciated as well.
 
I know, I know....party pooper

For all those who asked for an old gun to be remade (the way it was, and at a decent price), sorry, dream on. The reason you have to ask for those guns is the very reason we will never see them. They can't be made, and sold in numbers great enough to keep their makers in business!

Now, maybe if you could get a few dozen thousand friends together and put the money up, you might be able to get one of the makers to do a limited production run, maybe. Or, maybe you could form a company to make them, but in today's economy and social/legal situation, good luck.

Some of the guns/chamberings asked for can be done (some already are being done) but most of them are off the market, or never were on, for good reason. And that reason is money. As in not enough to make it worthwhile for the maker.

That being said, there are dozens of guns/calibers I would love to see offered again/or for the first time, and yes I would buy, if they were (and here's the biggest catch) affordable!

I'd dearly love to see the original Auto Mag pistol reintroduced (with the bugs worked out!), but if the price was $10K per unit, I couldn't get one, nor could very many other people.

To make good guns takes skilled people, although fewer than it did (and with some different skills) a century ago. And these people have to make a living wage (tougher every year), and they have to make that wage week in, week out, year in, year out. Add in all the costs of just operating a manufacturing business (of anything), and then the costs unique to the firearms business, balanced against the actually small profit margin per unit and thats a tremendously difficult thing to do, and make a living at.

Still, its nice to dream, because once in a great while, some dreams actually do come true!
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I thought this thread was called "guns you'd like to see produced," not "guns that you wish could be produced but here let me give you an economics lesson on why it will never be done" or "guns that MIGHT EVER be produced." It's just a dream thread, no one thinks any of them are ever going to come out with them. Seems like in every thread there's someone posting up like they're the only ones who know anything about anything.
 
I'm not trying to suggest I'm the only one that knows anything (I am the only one who knows what I'm thinking, however, if anything) but I do try to avoid repeating what someone else said. Usually.

Heaven knows how you could come up with a lever action that hasn't been tried before, especially when you remember you have to start before the Civil War to look at what's been done already. I'd like to see one that didn't have so many exposed screws, though, and I know I'm repeating myself (Didn't say I never did that). I keep thinking of what Ruger's approach might be, though this isn't a prediction. It would either have a double column box magazine or a rotary magazine, which Ruger likes. They've both been done. I rather liked Ruger's lever actions but they came and went before I had one. I didn't care for the woodwork on the ones I examined, however.

A laminated stock isn't a bad idea and they come on some models. But some really look awful, in the sense they are in funny colors and so on. That's just taste, however.

Speaking of Ruger, I believe they experimented with an auto-loading rifle along the lines of an M14/M1A but I guess they weren't satisifed with their progress and stopped work on it. That would be an interesting story. But there might be some potential along the lines of the old auto-loading rifles that Winchester manufactured well before I was born. Is the .351 Winchester Self-Loading what I'm thinking of? And was it manufactured more recently than I think, like post-war? I've looked at one hanging on the wall at Clark Brothers near Warrenton, VA, and it had "nice lines," so that might be something for someone to pursue (maybe even Winchester!) but all those M1 carbines are already competition.

The possibilities are endless.
 
What I'd like to see made that would be available to us without extra fees and paperwork would be a semi auto BAR. Not the hunting rifle stuff but the WW2 30-06.
 
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