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Reverse it and see what happens. The same people who thinks it's ok to give discounts/free stuff to women would be crying about discrimination.

Especially in this age of "professional victims", some of us realize that public reaction to a policy is often a poor gauge, so I'm not sure what the purpose of your "test" is.

Why should any business owner care what percentage of the population is buying their stuff as long as the money is good? If I'm selling a product, I don't give a damn that out of 1000 items they had 25% of this that or the other... I just want the business. If I want to grow it to 2000 items, why would I care what race or gender bought them?

I think you're missing out on the entire point behind the "Ladies' Night" promotion.

The owner likely doesn't care what percentage of his clientele is male and what percentage is female - like you said, their money all spends the same.

But, there's nothing in the article to suggest that he's having to turn away male business in order to court female shooters. What he's doing is trying to expand his business **without cannibilizing his current customer base** by tapping into the hitherto under-represented female market.

When Domino's started selling chicken wings, salads, sandwiches and desserts, they weren't trying to cut down on the number of pizzas they sold - they were simply trying to attract the crowd that wanted something besides pizza.
 
I guess this settles it once and for all:

Dear Mr. Xxxxxx,

This office is unaware of any Vermont statute, regulation or case law that expressly and specifically prohibits Vermont businesses from offering ladies night-type specials. You may, however, already be aware that Vermont’s statutes at Title 9, section 4502(a) states:

An owner or operator of a place of public accommodation or an agent or employee of such owner or operator shall not, because of the race, creed, color, national origin, marital status, sex, sexual orientation, or gender identity of any person, refuse, withhold from, or deny to that person any of the accommodations, advantages, facilities, and privileges of the place of public accommodation.

I hope this information is helpful to you.

With best regards, Xxxx Xxxxxxx

Xxxx Xxxxxxx
Vermont Human Rights Commission
14-16 Baldwin Street
Montpelier, VT 05633-6301

According to the VT Human Rights Commission, my distinct memories from well over 20 years ago when I was working bars as a bouncer are completely wrong...

I can live with that...

:D
 
Salmoneye:

Thanks for following through with that. Vermont's position makes sense to me, but evidently, the matter isn't as "cut and dried" as I had originally thought, because there are some states that have ruled that variable pricing arrangements based on a patron's sex are in fact illegal. Here's a law blog that gives some examples.
 
Thanks for following through with that.

Entirely welcome, but I must admit that it was much more for my own edification, than trying to be 'right or wrong'...

The older I get, the more I find that what I thought was black and white, may not be as 'B&W' as I thought...

I'm sure that at some time in the near future my darling Wife will tell me if that is a good, or bad thing...
 
I'm trying to decide if I would like the kind of life where I could afford to expend my mental and emotional energy worrying about Ladies Night at the range. It would either mean I had absolutely no problems in my life or I was so bitter that I worried about petty little things that didn't even effect me.
 
It is legal in bars to have a ladies night. It should be legal to have one at the range.

Frankly I think our sport needs more feminine touches.
 
Being cranky - I'm going to say that I wonder if the animus against such an event is really some theoretical civil rights/discrimination view point or some problem with women as a group.

I've seen that before. At a meeting, we discussed the use of chairman. Using chairperson, chairman and chairwoman seemed stilted. We decided to call folks simply 'the chair'. Some old guy started the blah, blah. These women - blah, blah. I'm not a chair, that's furniture.

I suggested we could call him the stool - to end the argument.
 
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