Gun Range Sued

Does that mean bars can be sued for offering ladies night discounts?
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They already have ... and they lost. :(

(Luckily I'm married so I don't frequent bars and if i do, the number of lady clientele do not matter ... I'm just there for the beer.)
 
You forgot the stylish heels and matching clutch purse...
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Alright, guys. I'm pretty sure there's a forum rule about cross-dressing. I can't seem to find it at the moment, but heaven help us, no fishnets! :)
 
The confusion is the word gender refers to words in language that have a gender bias, such as the Spanish word for female friend is Amiga, while the same word for a male friend is Amigo. The physical difference between man and woman is more correctly called sex. Not as in 'let's get down and sweaty', but as in "sexual characteristics of".
I've heard it called gender many times, and strictly according to the rules of English, that is actually incorrect. Then again, so is "ain't", and I ain't givin' that one up!:D
 
I stand corrected...And rather stunned actually...

Below is the answer I received from DLC:

Hello Xxxx,

There is no law against offering a Ladies "vs" Men's night theme or a different cover charge. However, any drink specials have to be an all day price. A happy hour or special drink prices offered at certain times of the day is against the law.

Please contact the Human Right Commission for any information regarding gender related issues. We have no law or regulation against the gender of what licensed establishments offer. Their contact information is:

Vermont Human Rights Commission
14-16 Baldwin Street
Montpelier, VT 05633-6301
800-416-2010, x25 (voice)
802-828-2481 (fax)
877-294-9200 (TTY)

human.rights@state.vt.us


Thank you.

Angela Raycraft
Administrative Assistant
Department of Liquor Control
13 Green Mountain Drive
Montpelier, VT 05620-4501
(802) 828-2339 phone
(802) 828-1031 fax
angela.raycraft@state.vt.us

I have now directed the question to the Vermont Human Rights Commission

:D
 
Reading through this again, I have to agree that the suit doesn't seem to be above board. The person suing does not appear to be actually trying to rectify some sort of wrong that had actually done harm. That doesn't mean the suit isn't valid, only that I don't see where any serious issue is being resolved by it, even if it can be won.

Given the problems we have in the world, not all fights need to fought even if they can be fought after somebody suffered an offense that is pretty meaningless.
 
armoredman said:
The confusion is the word gender refers to words in language that have a gender bias, such as the Spanish word for female friend is Amiga, while the same word for a male friend is Amigo. The physical difference between man and woman is more correctly called sex. Not as in 'let's get down and sweaty', but as in "sexual characteristics of".
I've heard it called gender many times, and strictly according to the rules of English, that is actually incorrect.
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Gender, which has more than one definition, can include the concept of sex. Gender can also refer to a characteristic of words, i.e. masculine, feminine or neuter. More controversial, there is a sociological definition of gender that holds our gender roles to be largely arbitrary.

That the word has at least three distinguishable definitions doesn't mean one is incorrect. "Gender" should work well enough in this context because the discrimination alleged is unlikely to involve a physical exam or chromosomal analysis.
 
Some guys did this in San Diego sued a few bars in downtown and I think they won. This was a few years back.
 
FYI, Ladies Night at bars where ladies pay less has been ruled a problem in several states, but not all where it has been brought to the courts...
A ladies' night is a promotional event, often at a bar or nightclub, where female patrons pay less than male patrons for the cover charge or drinks. State courts in California, Maryland, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin have ruled that ladies' night discounts are unlawful gender discrimination under state or local statutes. However, courts in Illinois, Minnesota, and Washington have rejected a variety of challenges to such discounts.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladies'_night

Note that the gun range in question is in a different county that the Maryland lawsuit on ladies night was held.
http://www.apnewsarchive.com/1986/A...riminates/id-06d9688c08ece61e4f1825be6431717e

I am still not sure where paying $15 (his injury for having to pay when the ladies did not) constitutes received $200K, the amount of the suit. I am thinking he gets his $15, interest, and legal fees back, at most.
 
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Don P said:
As stated in post # 22 you "HAVE TO WIN" in order to get and wear the green jacket.
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No, you don't, members of Augusta National are given green jackets as a way to show their membership, and there are two female members being admitted

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allaroundhunter said:
No, you don't, members of Augusta National are given green jackets as a way to show their membership, and there are two female members being admitted (one of whom being Mrs. Michelle Obama)...
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The new female members are Condoleezza Rice and Darla Moore.
 
I propose to everyone on this forum that they SHOULD be upset about things like "Ladies night". The reality is if this range was running a "gentlemen's night", feminist groups around the country would be lining up to sue them. They'd have protesters parked in front from opening to close.

You can't get true equality by flipping it around granting special privileges to another group. That just breeds more resentment.
 
I don't see a problem with a business trying to expand their customer base by offering a promotional discount to a group that they normally have a hard time attracting. I've seen similar offers at day spas in an attempt to attract men.
 
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