gun control poll
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I agree.
But since we are condeming Randy Weaver, lets see what "The American Rifleman" published by the NRA wrote. Regardless of what you think of his politics, I can't believe that anyone here would use this as an arguement for gun control.
http://land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/weaver.shtml
Remember there is a difference btween a "white seperatist", "white supremacist", and a "racist"
lol seriously whats the difference? Semantics at best.
Weaver has been quoted as refering to black people as mud people. He regularily attended Aryan Nations meetings. True the original warrants for his arrest and us the US marshalls after the court date typo incident and the particulars to the shooting are all wrong...but we are talking about a fanatic holed up in the woods in a shack with no power or running water...hmm maybe Ted Kazinski use to drop by for lunch and have a few beers with all those happy Church of the Creator and ARM boys...
I dont want to derail this post as it has lots of good debate in it, but Weaver in my books represents the kind of person...a decent law abiding person doesnt want associated with the firearms movement... People like him make all us normal people look bad. Randy weaver and Koresh are people the antis love to fixate on...
Weaver has been quoted as refering to black people as mud people. He regularily attended Aryan Nations meetings. True the original warrants for his arrest and us the US marshalls after the court date typo incident and the particulars to the shooting are all wrong...but we are talking about a fanatic holed up in the woods in a shack with no power or running water...hmm maybe Ted Kazinski use to drop by for lunch and have a few beers with all those happy Church of the Creator and ARM boys...
I dont want to derail this post as it has lots of good debate in it, but Weaver in my books represents the kind of person...a decent law abiding person doesnt want associated with the firearms movement... People like him make all us normal people look bad. Randy weaver and Koresh are people the antis love to fixate on...
Okay Sendec.
#1.A seperatist, regardless of color, wants any and all who are not like him, to be seperated from him and those like himself. Seperated could mean across town, on another bus, or another region, but I think you can understand the gist of the definition.
#2.A supremacist,again regardless of color, is one who believes himself and those like him, are superior to anyone who is different than they are. simple huh?
#3.A racist.That term defines each and every one of us, whether or not we are willing to say so. And I might add, it should not be used to denigrate peoples different from ourselves.
People from different countries and cultures are just that. Different. Some may excel at tasks where others fail miserably. Does this make them better or worse than other races, no, because they will be good at something that others flounder at. Races of people are just like breeds of dogs. You cannot seriously expect a Dachsund to be a good duck retriever. You also cannot expect a labrador to be a good "tunnel in the burrow rabbit dog". Or a collie to be a good "hog catcher". Likewise, a bulldog would make a poor shepherd, unless you want your sheep "grabbed and held".
Better or worse? In some cases. But mainly just different. Why not dwell on the positive aspects of people, rather than there failings?
#1.A seperatist, regardless of color, wants any and all who are not like him, to be seperated from him and those like himself. Seperated could mean across town, on another bus, or another region, but I think you can understand the gist of the definition.
#2.A supremacist,again regardless of color, is one who believes himself and those like him, are superior to anyone who is different than they are. simple huh?
#3.A racist.That term defines each and every one of us, whether or not we are willing to say so. And I might add, it should not be used to denigrate peoples different from ourselves.
People from different countries and cultures are just that. Different. Some may excel at tasks where others fail miserably. Does this make them better or worse than other races, no, because they will be good at something that others flounder at. Races of people are just like breeds of dogs. You cannot seriously expect a Dachsund to be a good duck retriever. You also cannot expect a labrador to be a good "tunnel in the burrow rabbit dog". Or a collie to be a good "hog catcher". Likewise, a bulldog would make a poor shepherd, unless you want your sheep "grabbed and held".
Better or worse? In some cases. But mainly just different. Why not dwell on the positive aspects of people, rather than there failings?
Wildalaska
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O....my....god......:barf:
WildspeechlessAlaska
Jammer Six
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They certainly are.
Exclusivity is for the Klan. Intolerance is for lazy fools.
The rest of us are capable of dealing with opposing views.
It's the only reason we can demand that they deal with ours.
The idea that people have different abilities based soley on race is the very definition of racism.
As such, I hold the poster of this message in utter contempt, and pity its children.
TheBluesMan
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This discussion has run it's course. We're nearing the low road, so I'll close it now.
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