But without hard data, there's no realistic way to know for sure.
True.
But without hard data, there's no realistic way to know for sure.
It's the same rationale behind carrying a modern DAO type semi-auto with the chamber empty to prevent a discharge if the trigger is pulled unintentionally. If a person is carrying empty chamber to prevent the gun from firing when the trigger is pulled, then for a semi-auto DAO type pistol, the chamber would be empty--but for a DA revolver, the next chamber (not the one directly under the hammer) would be empty since that's the one that would fire if the trigger were pulled.I have not met anyone who did this, the bolded part I mean. It can only be done with a da revolver. First I've heard of it. Extremely cautious individual I would assume.
looked at his Taurus 902 Slim, flipped the safety off and brought it back up just in time to get shot in the chest and killed. He also had the gun in a drawer with no round chambered
Saw that on the 1970s TV 'Police Story'.
Sarge tells rookie: "Of course you keep the chamber under the hammer empty, but leave the next one up empty, too. That way, if somebody grabs your gun, it won't go off the first try and you will have time to draw your backup."
And here's a case where condition 3 got someone killed recently:
https://www.jhnewsandguide.com/news/...0d6e4f670.html
It was a warm day — peaking at 73 degrees in nearby Moran — and while field dressing the elk Uptain removed his shirt and left it and his black nylon shoulder strap holding a Glock 10-millimeter handgun 5 or 10 yards uphill of the carcass. A canister of bear spray was slung from a hip holster on Uptain’s left side, but Chubon’s bear spray was left in his pack because it had “become cumbersome carrying it on the horse,” he told investigators.
Uptain was removing the bull’s head, with Chubon nearby, when they heard a sound of rocks tumbling, presaging the attack.
“Mr. Chubon stated he looked up and saw two grizzly bears running full speed directly toward them,” ...
Uptain’s first reaction, Chubon recalled, was “waving his arms and yelling” in the fleeting moment before he was struck and repeatedly bitten. The larger of the two bruins, an adult sow, was the aggressor, while its grown cub was initially “just moving around in the background.”
Chubon’s first reaction was to retrieve Uptain’s Glock from the nearby gear pile, but he didn’t know how to function the slide on the top of the firearm that chambers a bullet.
the 10 mm Glock should have been at hand and made ready in condition 2 and on your hip.
As I recall in this case condition three had nothing to do with it. The Glock was stored in a backpack several yards away from where the two men were skinning a bear. Two bears ran up on them and attacked the man who owned the Glock. The other man than ran to the back pack, got the Glock, but knew nothing about the gun and did not know why it would not fire.
How do you put a Glock in condition 2?
Because it was in Condition 3.
And here's a case where condition 3 got someone killed recently:
https://www.jhnewsandguide.com/news/...0d6e4f670.html The guide made a decision to not show the bow hunter how to make ready the Glock.
That the piece was left in condition 3 is inside a backpack 5-10 yards away ain't exactly "minutia".
The problem wasn't what condition the gun was in.
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As I said and the facts show, it did not matter what condition the gun was in.
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A string of errors led to the death of a man. The condition of the gun was only a part of that, and a small part.