Gallup poll: 53% of The Sheeple ready to vote for Frau Hillary

Try reading the whole article---not just the part about the companies. These countries were being BRIBED by Saddam to gain their vote in the UN. This answers the question that nobody could understand at the time about why anybody would vote in favor of Iraq--now you have your answer. If you like to google so much then look up the Volker report regarding the Oil for Food scandal. As I said, you would simply dismiss the facts. BTW that is only 1 of 100's of articles regarding the bribes.
What is it with you noone-----poor, uneducated, looking for a government handout, too many liberal teachers, atheist, need a hug?;)
 
those countries where bribed by saddam? oh yeah i remember before the invasion we all shook in our boots at the thought of mighty saddams wrath. who are you kidding? maybe you should read the whole article. it talks about how those countries were leaning more towards LIFTING SANCTIONS. oh boy got you there huh? they probably voted to lift the sanctions because of all the innocent iraqi's who were hurt by the sanctions. oh boy who would of thought of that.

not poor, not educated enough for my liking, i am constantly taking more classes, never taken a hand out, didnt have enough liberal teachers, agnostic, and sure ill take a hug just not from you.

whats the score? me 10 you 0?
 
Please pay attention--those were the countries who voted against us using the UN to enforce the sanctions against Saddam---why because they were making a fortune off the oil for food bribes. It wasn't in there own interest to remove Saddam due to the money they were making(something you hate).
Not enough Liberal teachers? It's a 10-1 ratio--how did you miss? Agnostic---that explains a whole lot more then you could ever know. Not quite sure why you want to live here in the US, there are quite a few nations who think like you do---or is it simply because you can legally own a gun here?;)
 
you still think that those companies run those countries? wtf is your deal?

why do you keep this going? you are trying to argue that bush is ruining this country. is that even possible?

what does my being agnostic have to do with anything?

I want to liver here because, oh i dont i know i was born here and im partial to this country. because it is the greatest country in the world(even with current problems). I wont give up on my country thats why I stay here.
 
There is a set of criteria that one can use to determine the moniker of "leftist hellhole" - for example, pork-barrel like the Detroit People Mover or the vast swaths of abandoned homes there, levee funds diverted to Levee Board office fountains and FBI graft prosecutions in New Orleans, a coke-snorting mayor in Washington DC, 16 vote fraud convictions in St. Louis and counting, the midnight bulldozing of Meigs Field in Chicago, etc.

How is a simple factual description of the disastrous state of affairs in leftist-run cities "discrimination" against the people unfortunate or shiftless enough to live in them?
 
wtf is wrong with some of you? you keep putting words in my mouth, its getting annoying.

Not to offend, but if I could read half of what you wrote, I could understand much better.
 
Taking liberties with Claude Rain's line from "Casablanca":

"I'm shocked ... shocked to find polarization in this country."

I really don't have much to add, other than it's ridiculous to assume somebody's stance on anything other than religion based on whether or not they're not an agnostic. And the religious right wonders why people fight them every time they get a burr up their a$$ about some ridiculous issue. :barf: Prayer in schools ... it's the answer to all our problems!

If this were a Christian country at any time in its history, its history would have been a whole lot more boring.

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jefnvk: which language should i write my replys in for now on?

mvpel: fixed: how is the factual description of the disasterous state of affairs in a far right run country discrimination against the people unfortunate or shiftless enough to live in it?

hey its cool just group roughly 18 million people all in one catagory and debase them. nice job.

why dont you run for governor of one of these huge diverse city's and fix all their problems for them. Im sure it would simple with you at the helm.
 
This thread gives me great confidence across the entire political spectrum of voters. No wonder we get a choice between someone like a Bush or a Hillary.

:barf:
 
we as a country need to come up with a way to limit campaign funds that is fair so we can get some people to run who arent shills for big business, among other changes that need to be made. until that happens it will be more of the same old, same old.
 
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All I know as both a lifetime NRA member and conservative Constitutionalist, that's a throwback to my Dad's "Brown Shoe" days (what I now dubb as being a BSA, or Brown Shoe American) is that no one with her kind of Socialist agendas is getting my vote... never have and they (especially Hillary) never will. But then why would I? I'm pro 2nd Amendment and came up military, and cannot understand those who would vote people into office who only seek to make ppl more dependent on THE MAN; which sadly most of my family up north does. :( It will be interesting to see where everything goes in the upcomming elections, though a ways off still. Shoot the first thread I walked into on this these boards and already I feel at home with such subject matter.

For me, and I'm not just picking on Hillary. If the platform or agenda doesn't uphold the grass roots foundations of what the nation was supposed to be and ultimately still is, well I've got little use for them.
 
hilary wants to make people more dependant on the man? boy I must of missed that speech at my super secret liberal take all the guns away and make people depend on the government class. probably the one where i forgot my super secret liberal decoder ring.
 
noone said:
hilary wants to make people more dependant on the man? boy I must of missed that speech at my super secret liberal take all the guns away and make people depend on the government class. probably the one where i forgot my super secret liberal decoder ring.

No but "The Left" has always been about proliferating more hand outs to people instead of encouraging people to do for themselves. It's always (at least since I've been alive anyhow) felt unsure around law abiding gun owners for no good reason, and because of that fact wish to have everyone's right taken away. Thus I don't much care for Hillary or her hubby Billy Boy, along with a good portion (not all) of the left who's aims to me are just atrociously Anti-American anyway I've tried looking at it. I'm not the type holed up in some fortified compound or anything, but I've got my issues with people of her ilk, or guys like Kerry who was touting:

"I'm not against ALL guns, I'm a hunter you know? I'm just saying blah, blah, blah, blah..."

Don't trust it. It reeks of what traditionally was considered "Communism" and to me anyone who would vote in favor of people who would proliferate such socialist/commie agendas under new banners (call it global progressivism if you want to), piss on the 2nd Amendment or try and subordinate our own constitution within the UN in favor of a global one can get their knees dirty. Because they sure as hell ain't getting my vote. Not to say I haven't had my issues here or there with the man I voted for (Dubya) as of late, but then that's why I'm unpopular amongst the collective majority, I speak my mind. I'm not saying that MY WAY or MY VIEWS are always ultimately Right, but man it just kills me to see the very things men and women died for during the Cold War to protect us from being slowly turned into the same damn thing just under a different banner. We've got a nation divided half the time. I've always respected a person's right to not want firearms or even agree with me. That's their right, but they shouldn't have the right to tell everyone else they need to have their rights revoked just because it makes some NIMBY PC minded jerk off uneasy and they know jack squat about the people. I'm tired of seeing people cry out about not enough being done from the top down when people live from the ground up.

I think of the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. You had all this looting going on and ppl generally acting a fool. Rapes, murders etc right? Everyone is looking to "The Man" and placing blame on "The Man" because they didn't mobilize in time. Well with the exception of those who didn't have the means to move (handicapped & elderly), it came down to the reality that "The Man" can't be everywhere. We've come up in a generation (heck almost two now) where it's okay to fail. It's okay to make a generational tradition out of welfare because ppl can live better than most in 3rd world nations and basically be Kings in comparison, rather than to use it to better themselves and move on. Instead I've got to bust my butt along with my wife to pay for people who have no ethics (not all but most), but it's not totally their fault is it? People aren't encouraged to do squat anymore, it's all who can do what for me? Boys are told not to defend themselves from a bully etc.

Then going back to the looters and what not in the Post Katrina setting, I couldn't help but wonder why the heck citizens from somewhere within the state of Lousiana from a reputable militia branch didn't get deputized by the respective county Sheriff to help assist the police with containment & S&D missions within the chaos to keep the looting of non essentials at a mimimum? At least until the National Guard (not the militia, despite what many say) arrived, and then maybe even assisted the NG if they so desired. My guess is that elements like militias have been demonized for so long (by The Left no less) that there aren't any. Instead everyone chucks the blame elsewhere right? Sure a lot is messed up in from the top down, but a lot of people like a few friends of mine I'm assuming are long dead now, never had the foresight to think any differently than they do, or did. All of that is indeed on the side of things "Frau Hillary" is on. With a continued proliferation of dependence. It's not crazy talk when it's true.

But I don't want to turn this into a flame thread, I was just stating without the elaboration present in this post, that she's not getting my vote. But you'll have to excuse me man, I'm a bit high context in everything I do.
 
Many of you proove a big problem within the USA. Democrats and republicans are to busy flinging crap at each other to take care of their country. There used to be a time where the majority was fairly equal and democrats and republicans worked together. This rarely exist now a days. If both political parties stopped acting like kids in middle school wed be living in a much happier and free america!

I believe im free as can be. I dont really care much about the goverment being nosey in my privacy. Some of you have a different definition of FREE so I just wanted to make it clear what my definition of free is.

I can say what I want about my goverment without being tortured and beaten for it. Thats what I consider free. I love the USA. But the current goverment is quite corrupt. Give this whole inditment crap going on another 3-4 months before someone else gets into the crossairs. Were going to see a big change soon. I assure every last one of you that!
 
AndrewTB said:
Many of you proove a big problem within the USA. Democrats and republicans are to busy flinging crap at each other to take care of their country.

Well I can't speak for anyone else in this thread but I'm neither a Republican or a Democrat, what I am doesn't really have a "Recognized" party affiliation to the best of my knowledge. I'm a Conservative (with some moderate/liberal ideas here or there) Constitutionalist. Though I vote for whomever isn't a Socialist weasel. I understand what you're driving at about the divison amongst the two recognized/major parties, but it's hard for ppl to come together when one side ultimately wants to keep things simple and the other side wants to poo poo on the very things that make and in some cases MADE the USA great. Sure things could be worse I'll give you that, and we're still the best nation on Earth... Hell I'm willing to die for it if need be, but the fact remains we've got an entire generation of people coming up who know jack squat about their own rights and what the laws on the books are, let alone what happened in our historical past be it US History or World History.

From your profile you're pretty young and from your post seem to not be amongst the condom leak degenerates who think they are "OWED" something and more to the point their freedoms... which they are not. Most of the anti-gun ppl have never spent one day at a rifle range, let alone understand proper gun safety and that one who knows it is far safer to be around than someone who doesn't know a breech from the muzzle. My dad had purchased me a .22 replica of a .30WCF M-94 when I was just six months old, and from the time I was 3 he was right there helping me hold it up @ the 25 yard range. I learned the rudimentary baiscs and gun safety and knew darned good and well what not to do. To listen to some of these bleeding heart liberal new age Communists, that would be bad parenting... only it's not. Today you've got individuals who don't respect their elders, they see them as in the way, they'll go into the military and USE it, then go on TV and bitch when they have to actually serve, while some who want to serve within the sacred vocation of the military are kept out due to red tape. Patriotism is okay as long as one isn't too Patriotic. You can talk about any Religion or religious figure, but don't bring up Jesus Christ. I'm not going to say the conservative right doesn't have it's boneyard of issues, but what's supposed to make the nation great is honor & freedom.

Where's the honor? Freedom sure... but where's the honor? All I see are loser former Hippies who honestly believed they could fornicate and drug their way into a social revolution and change the system, thus showing lack of any understanding of "Revolution" or how the goverment saw them for the slack fisted dirty anti-soldier bastards they were... and now most of them are the system... BAH! I see fellow 27 year olds and younger who crap on everything. They're more inetersted in getting a perm or doing all manner of GAY activities within the sub male category of "Metrosexual" and couldn't be arsed to do something outdoors. GOD Forbid someone want to go hunting, those guys no doubt admonished for being a MAN when they were a boy have become the guy's afraid of their own shadows, and more often than not subscribe to the far left Communist tom foolery under different banners. They feel Intimidated by you or I who've never broken a law (save Traffic Tickets I'm sure), pay our taxes and more; having our 2nd Amendment Rights which is there for those losers as well, only they'd gladly sell the very nation you and I obviously love so well and want to see flourish as it's meant to, right down the toilet only they don't realize it.

Thus with two diametrically opposed sides I don't see how things will ever get better. It's basically left up to the individuals who make up the body to decide for themselves whether they're going to be a limp handed jocko boy bleeing heart, or something closer to the traditional American male. But heck, most were raised to be dependent and can't see the woods for the trees anyhow. But I don't lose sleep over it, it just upsets me. Next time you're at the mall listen to some of the dreck that comes out your average 16-30 year old's mouths. They're too busy playing patty cake to understand what a man's job is all about, nor have understanding of the foundations of the USA, and this is coming from a super mixed/interracial minority saying this who's never bitched he was kept down by THE MAN, or anyone else.
 
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