Former Taliban admitted to Yale
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Do YOU want to undergo a background check when you enroll in a community college class?
Would you like to answer questions about your life to a detective so you can qualify to take a tax prep class?
Are you prepared for the added tuition costs of screening everyone who wants to take even a single class?
Would you like to answer questions about your life to a detective so you can qualify to take a tax prep class?
Are you prepared for the added tuition costs of screening everyone who wants to take even a single class?
It doesnt take a detective to know this guys background..its common knowledge. So you agree that a fellow who was part of a murderous and tyrannical regime should be allowed to come into the US and enroll in a prestigious university? Of course it doesnt suprise me since Yale allowed two Nazi collaborators to teach there also without checking.
1. He shouldnt have been allowed in the US
2. Which means that he wouldnt be attending Yale.
3. Yale had to accept him before he could get a student Visa
4. His past was common knowledge
we will just have to agree to disagree on this one.
1. He shouldnt have been allowed in the US
2. Which means that he wouldnt be attending Yale.
3. Yale had to accept him before he could get a student Visa
4. His past was common knowledge
we will just have to agree to disagree on this one.
To whom? The people in the bursars office? Remember, community college = no admission department. On what source are you basing your assertion that someone "in charge" at Yale had any idea who had enrolled in these night classes in the first place?
I don't disagree that his presense in the US is poor. What I disagree with is holding some private institution liable for governmental immigration policy.
Why is it that you feel Yale has some responsibility that every other place Sayed goes does not? Where is your concern about his grocery store? Why no anger at his landlord? Cab service? Barber?
I'm sure you'd be the first in line pissing and moaning if any US institution barred someone you favor access, but somehow Yale's night school needs to be held to a standard that even the government doesn't have?
All you seem to be in favor of is prejudicial behavior on the part of private businesses toward individuals legally in the US. Whether this guy is unsavory or not is immaterial, because our right to privacy doesn't include Yale or anyone else even asking the questions you are demanding.
It is sick and unAmerican to expect, or even prefer, that businesses, institutions and professionals screen their clientel so they don't offend your sensibilities. It is little different than racial segregation, and our laws reflect that we believe such actions are a violation of civil rights.
Let me put it in a way that you might, somehow, understand:
If Yale did refuse admission based on Sayed's past beliefs and associations, they would be liable for lawsuit, which they would lose.
Yale is not a community college why the indignation at Yale...because I can. Its America and I have the First Amendment.
How could they be sued? Mr. Sayed could be refused on the basis of his past asscociation of the Taliban which is considered an enemy of the United States. You can sue on the basis of sex, race, age and religious discrimination. Mr Sayed could not sue on the basis of slander either. working in a regime that murders people doesnt come under discrimination nor slander if what you are saying is recorded and true.
I am already in the pissing line because a soldier who has served his country and still continues to do so cant bring the wife he married in to the US for almost a year. I think I have seniority in the pissing line. I will still be in the pissing line till I die.
So armored car companys and banks should not screen thier personnel? Ah, Mr. Smith I see you have served several terms in prison for armend robbery but we will still hire you because it is sick to screen your records?
Is your memory that short?
We already discussed how large Universities offer night classes as part of a continuing eduction/community/junior college program. As I already stated for you, they have no admission requirements short of prerequisites and payment. That is who Sayed is attending, but not admitted, to Yale.
I already explained this to you in both post #16 and #18, which you didn't disagree with at the time, so I think you are just being pedantic, now.
back at you.
We already discussed how large Universities offer night classes as part of a continuing eduction/community/junior college program. As I already stated for you, they have no admission requirements short of prerequisites and payment. That is who Sayed is attending, but not admitted, to Yale.
I already explained this to you in both post #16 and #18, which you didn't disagree with at the time, so I think you are just being pedantic, now.
back at you.From Yales Summer Admissions and Special Programs Page
"Students may complete the general application and the application for housing & meals online. This option allows students to pay the application fee with a credit card. If a student applies online, all other required documentation listed below (including recommendations, transcripts, writing samples, test scores, etc.) must be submitted separately. Online applications will not be considered complete and will not be processed until all supporting materials are received."
senile maybe....pedantic no
"Students may complete the general application and the application for housing & meals online. This option allows students to pay the application fee with a credit card. If a student applies online, all other required documentation listed below (including recommendations, transcripts, writing samples, test scores, etc.) must be submitted separately. Online applications will not be considered complete and will not be processed until all supporting materials are received."
senile maybe....pedantic no
Again, how does the admissions method for their continuing education program inform Yale as to the political history of an applicant?
AND, why do you hold a college to a standard that you don't hold the rest of the community to?
Finally, do you think it would actually be legal to turn this guy away?
Bottom line: You are putting a burden on institutions that have no means or right to enforce public policy.
AND, why do you hold a college to a standard that you don't hold the rest of the community to?
Finally, do you think it would actually be legal to turn this guy away?
Bottom line: You are putting a burden on institutions that have no means or right to enforce public policy.
To say that Yale had no prior knowledge of this guys past...would be false. They knew who he was and what he had done before he was admitted or accepted or put in the round hole, whichever they choose to call it
Why do I hold Yale to a higher standard?
"Written above the Branford gate was Yale's motto: "For God, For Country, and For Yale."
Yale uses the motto in advertising the campus and promoting the campus.
if your gonna talk the talk, walk the walk....pilgrims.
would it be legal to turn away a guy who was a member of the Taliban?
no problem.. we turn down other immigrants every year from plenty of other nations for lesser reasons.
I have every right to complain about Yale admitting a member of the Taliban Government. I have put no other burden on the institution except that of my opinion as have many other people.
Why do I hold Yale to a higher standard?
"Written above the Branford gate was Yale's motto: "For God, For Country, and For Yale."
Yale uses the motto in advertising the campus and promoting the campus.
if your gonna talk the talk, walk the walk....pilgrims.
would it be legal to turn away a guy who was a member of the Taliban?
no problem.. we turn down other immigrants every year from plenty of other nations for lesser reasons.
I have every right to complain about Yale admitting a member of the Taliban Government. I have put no other burden on the institution except that of my opinion as have many other people.