Former Taliban admitted to Yale

So I should assume that the State Department gives out Visas on a regular basis to Taliban or ex-Taliban officials to come to the United States?

So does this this mean that the Taliban members at Guantanamo U will be eligible for Visas to study in the United States?

Picture yourself as a lowly clerk processing Visas at the State Department. You type the applicants name in your computer..... the wtf screen comes up notifying you that this person is or was a taliban government member. Are you going to stamp that Visa approved just on the basis of an admission memorandum from Yale? Nope I bet it has to be kicked to a higher level where somebody calls Yale and asked some questions. Being an efficient bureacrat I am going to have the max amount of CYA available for my Boss before this gets approved.
 
So because a school on the other side of the country with no affiliation to the one in question declined to put up a statue of a known alcoholic with disciplinary problems in service and three kids he barely knew, that's somehow an answer to whether or not Yale pulled any extra strings for this other guy?
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As far as I'm concerned, yes. Most major universities seem to lean toward the far left in their attitudes. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to find out Yale pulled strings. Not one bit.

And from what I read on the Boyington issue, it was primarily because he was associated with war that the statue was rejected, not because of the aforementioned issues.
 
As far as I'm concerned, yes. Most major universities seem to lean toward the far left in their attitudes.
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I hear stuff like this a lot. Mostly from people who have never attended a university, but got their information from Rush, who also never attended a university.


Obviously, some of you guys could use a university course in logic or critical thinking. You know, if you could stand being "indoctrinated" or "brain washed" into using your brain in a straightforward fashion. Unfortunately, that means that sometimes you have to change your mind because of the facts, rather than inventing convenient facts to suit your beliefs.


The points made at the start of this thread have not been remotely demonstrated. The only thing you guys offer in support are your own prejudices.
 
Well, I've graduated from a university. Two of them, in fact. One is a REAL popular one that does LOTS of military (nuclear and otherwise) research. Very ivy league, though that wouldn't describe me very well.

In the 4 years I frequented universities, politics was not mentioned ever, once.

When the uneducated yap on about "liberal universities" they may or may not have a point regarding the english, law, political science majors. But a good part of any university worth mentioning is its science departments (physics, chemistry, biology, pre-med, engineering). Trust me. Nobody taking such a courseload has any time in class to be worried about politics. It's an extacurricular activity.

In fact, engineering tends to be very conservative-loaded.

So, speaking of facts, if you're going to comment on how liberal an institution is, pertinent facts would be your qualifications to make that judgment.
 
As far as I'm concerned, yes. Most major universities seem to lean toward the far left in their attitudes. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to find out Yale pulled strings. Not one bit.
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The operative part of my question was: "school on the other side of the country with no affiliation to the one in question ". You made your assumption based on a complete non-sequitor.

Why do you think that universities lean left? Why do you suppose that higher education may have more liberal standpoints?

And still, your gut feeling that Yale has pulled strings still in no way provides any evidence whatsoever that it pulled a single string more than it would for you or I.
 
But a good part of any university worth mentioning is its science departments (physics, chemistry, biology, pre-med, engineering).
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I don't mean this to sound like an attack on all conservatives but it seems that the most extreme representations of the right are specifically against science in general. They may view any organization that promotes the advancement of knowledge as an affront to their own brand of indoctrination.
 
I think the reality is that those who chose not to invest their younger years in attending universities, most of whom are now not enjoying the benefits thereof, are simply displaying the sour-grapes attitude that they wouldn't want to be associated with those communists anyway.
 
"Malalai Joya, a 27-year-old member of Afghanistan's parliament, is coming to Yale this Thursday to speak about women's rights and the growing power of both the Northern Alliance warlords and the Taliban in her country. She is harshly critical of President Hamid Karzai's government, which she says is infiltrated by warlords, and of the U.S. for supporting it. But she is also appalled that many people have forgotten the crimes of the Taliban. She was surprised to hear that Mr. Rahmatullah was attending Yale. "He should apologize to my people and expose what he and others did under the Taliban," she told me. "He knew very well what criminal acts they committed; he was not too young to know. He should give interviews so we know what he thinks now. It would be better if he faced a court of justice than be a student at Yale University." Somehow I doubt Mr. Rahmatullah will be attending her lecture on Thursday. "
 
but got their information from Rush
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Rush the band, or Rush the blowhard? Don't listen to either one of them. And I said "as far as I'm concerned" not "the fact is" or "it's documented" or anything concerning that. That's my opinion. I live in a very conservative area. The ONLY people I've ever met that were liberal or far left in their thinking have been graduates of major universities, from all over.
 
Which still complete fails to address your claims.
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Well let me restate my claims....maybe I was a bit hasty to lambast Yale for accepting a former government official and adviser to Mohammed Omar. Omar was a man whose regime stoned to death women who committed adultery, had homosexuals killed, thieves hands amputated, people put to death for converting to another religion..and other general crimes against humanity. The US has a reward of 10 million on his boss. Mr. Hashimi was a member of that regime.

so I withdraw my statement about Yale jumping through hoops. However, I still lambast Yale for accepting him.

My question is why isnt this guy attending The US sponsored Guantanamo U ?

I am sure Handy wouldnt mind Mr. Sayed Rahmatullah Hashimi moving next door to him ?
 
I am sure Handy wouldnt mind Mr. Sayed Rahmatullah Hashimi moving next door to him ?
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Of course I would "mind". Each of us could probably create a long list of people we wouldn't want as neighbors, starting with felons. I also don't want KKK members as neighbors.


Are you suggesting that every "undiserable" should be barred from public places? Should Sayed be allowed on the bus? Should your dentist allow felons in his waiting room? Should your grocery store allow members of any hate group to shop there?


Do you already have an island picked out for the people you don't like, but can't quite convict of anything? What would you say if you're on someone else's list of people that should be barred from mixing with the public?


Sometimes living in a free society means you won't like and won't agree with your neighbors. What would you prefer?
 
It isn't the Yale administrations job to monitor student visas or threads on TFL. You want them to start doing both?
 
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