Finally! Price gouging laws used. In TX no less

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I agree 100%... but suppose there are relatives, friends or neighbors who are too stupid to stock up beforehand (Sheep) and may be in dire need, or a week later after the event and prepared people may want to resupply, top off, etc. In a situation like this, price gouging laws should be enforced, as it isn't right. That was my point. I should have clarified.

Winter is here; I have firewood, propane, kerosene (multiple sources of heat) and gas for the generator. Plenty of food too.
Ice storms, Nor'easter's, etc., don't bother me, I'm going to have heat, electricity, hot water and a TV. And enough .22's to deal with a Zombie squirrel apocalypse!

With the advent of instantaneous news about things, there is simply no need to not be prepared and those who do should not be enabled with pricing below market value. If I live in the NE and I fail to ensure I have heating oil or whatever my house uses and there is a storm coming, that's on ME for failing to plan, and if that storm causes prices to spike from increased demand, weather-related shortages and inability to deliver, why I should I be rewarded with pricing from when things were normal?

Remember, Mother Nature is a cruel teacher - she gives you the test first and the lesson afterwards.
 
Ok, not gouging, but can we call it unethical? According to the You Tubers that make firearm related videos, CTD has been caught cancelling orders, refunding the money, then relisting the very same items at a higher price. A much higher price. What would you call that stunt?
 
Mike38 said:
Ok, not gouging, but can we call it unethical? According to the You Tubers that make firearm related videos, CTD has been caught cancelling orders, refunding the money, then relisting the very same items at a higher price. A much higher price. What would you call that stunt?
The Sportsmans Guide Company did that to me many years ago, on a reproduction flight jacket.

Definitely a sleazy tactic.
 
ATN082268 said:
If someone orders something and pays for it, is it legal to refund the money so you can charge them more?
The SGC was clever about it. The jacket they were selling for a higher price looked identical to the one I had ordered (and, since I'm sure they were both made in China or Malaysia, undoubtedly was the same) but it had a different SKU, so they could claim it wasn't the same product.
 
Nothing but a political stunt. If you don’t like the price, don’t buy it. The ammo crisis didn’t happen over night and anyone who thinks ammo is a necessity should have had a enough for a few magazines worth to defend themselves before ammo was hard to find.

I don’t buy from CTD but I’ll be back to SG and Target Sports as soon as prices drop back down.
 
The SGC was clever about it. The jacket they were selling for a higher price looked identical to the one I had ordered (and, since I'm sure they were both made in China or Malaysia, undoubtedly was the same) but it had a different SKU, so they could claim it wasn't the same product.

I wouldn't call it too clever. What was the original reason to cancel the order? If the reason was sold out and they had it listed as being in stock, that would be kind of weak :)
 
If the reason was sold out and they had it listed as being in stock, that would be kind of weak

In the days of major department stores like Sears, that was called "Bait & Switch" and was found to be illegal
 
ATN082268 said:
I wouldn't call it too clever. What was the original reason to cancel the order? If the reason was sold out and they had it listed as being in stock, that would be kind of weak
They didn't cancel the order, they put it on backorder. Since there is a law about how such things must work, a month later they sent me a notice that they expected to have it in stock in ___ days, and offered me the opportunity to cancel. By this time I had already seen the identical jacket (with a different stock number) in their catalog, and we had already bought the jacket at a local Army-Navy store because it was needed for a Christmas gift, so I decided to play the game. I sent back the notice asking to keep my back order on file.

We went though this little dance every month for the next six or eight months. They would send me a card saying they expected to have it in stock within ___ days, and offering me the opportunity to cancel. I would look on the web site and see the same jacket, with a different SKU and a higher price, and I would send back the card asking to maintain my backorder. I guess they finally realized that I was onto their little game and wasn't going to cancel my order, so they eventually cancelled it.
 
They didn't cancel the order, they put it on backorder. Since there is a law about how such things must work, a month later they sent me a notice that they expected to have it in stock in ___ days, and offered me the opportunity to cancel. By this time I had already seen the identical jacket (with a different stock number) in their catalog, and we had already bought the jacket at a local Army-Navy store because it was needed for a Christmas gift, so I decided to play the game. I sent back the notice asking to keep my back order on file.

We went though this little dance every month for the next six or eight months. They would send me a card saying they expected to have it in stock within ___ days, and offering me the opportunity to cancel. I would look on the web site and see the same jacket, with a different SKU and a higher price, and I would send back the card asking to maintain my backorder. I guess they finally realized that I was onto their little game and wasn't going to cancel my order, so they eventually cancelled it.

I would have documented everything and sent it to the BBB in addition to a few bureaucracies and legal agencies. Well worth the several Emails :) And then never shop there again...
 
These threads are laughable.

There's always the "no one's holding gun....blah, blah, blah" argument. Probably the same people who wholeheartedly believe in the NRA and its illustrious leader as they fleece their members...'cause you know, it's just about being an American & Capitalism. ;)

Regardless of whether it's called profiteering or price gouging, these jokers are taking advantage of a situation. If so many States have decided that guns & ammo are essential (even in this State of ILL), then why isn't jacking up prices on ammo beyond what is reasonable not price gouging?
 
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Regardless of whether it's called profiteering or price gouging, these jokers are taking advantage of a situation.

Taking advantage of a situation is considered to be good business sense. How you take advantage of the situation may not be good business sense. CTD may not have chosen wisely.
 
Don't just take a snippet. That's cheap. What should I have said for emphasis? These clowns are taking advantage of a situation? There's good business strategy and then there's charging 5x for a box of FMJ.
 
These threads are laughable.

There's always the "no one's holding gun....blah, blah, blah" argument. Probably the same people who wholeheartedly believe in the NRA and its illustrious leader as they fleece their members...'cause you know, it's just about being an American & Capitalism.

Regardless of whether it's called profiteering or price gouging, these jokers are taking advantage of a situation. If so many States have decided that guns & ammo are essential (even in this State of ILL), then why isn't jacking up prices on ammo beyond what is reasonable not price gouging?

Because some of us understand basic Econ 101
 
A large part of the problem is that stores don’t raise their prices fast enough. Once the shelves are empty and everyone is panicking because they can’t find ammo it’s too late. People just start panic buying everything they can get their hands on.
 
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