"Earn it."...your citizenship

One person, one vote.

No one's opinion is more important than anyone else.

Being a veteran, policeman or fireman doesn't make you wiser or more able to choose a president than a plumber, but it would go a long ways towards creating a ruling class.

The tracks for that train of thought are leading in exactly the wrong direction, and are precisely what most Americans deplore.
 
Are you sure about that Jammer?

Are you sure that you want your vote to be exactly equal to someone who is sixth generation welfare, who has an IQ of 80, who has been in and out of jail on misdemeanors all his/her life, who has had six chiildren to bring in welfare money and will become welfare recipients too, none of whom will never ever never pay any taxes at all? None of whom will ever never ever do anything that remotely resembles civic duty?

There are people pulling the wagon and people riding in the wagon. Why do the people riding in the wagon get the same say as the people pulling the wagon about where the wagon goes? Even our founding fathers didn't subscribe to that concept.

Are you really truly sure everyone's opinion is equal? Or are you just repeating the same old emotional lines that the media has been training us to say?

Where is the logic in your statement? Enlighten me.
 
Are you sure that you want your vote to be exactly equal to someone who is sixth generation welfare, who has an IQ of 80, who has been in and out of jail on misdemeanors all his/her life, who has had six chiildren to bring in welfare money and will become welfare recipients too, none of whom will never ever never pay any taxes at all? None of whom will ever never ever do anything that remotely resembles civic duty?
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If you don't understand why I would want it that way, I can't help you.
 
Perhaps we should improve the system even more now. Everyone gets one vote (unless they lose it) and some people get two votes and some people get three votes, and maybe we go as high as some get four votes...
Of course this is a logical idea and we live in a most illogical world
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What's the difference between that and having only a priviliged few having the right to a single vote. It's still an elitist idea. That's why it's most often proposed by the left wing crazos like Lani Guenier...
 
The difference is that the people who would have multiple votes are the people who have served thir fellow countrymen. People who have earned their citizenship. It would not be a small group. It would be a group made up of the people pulling the wagon, and entry into that group would be avaiable to anyone willing to pay the dues.

It would also include a large number of gun owners.

That's why it's most often proposed by the left wing crazos like Lani Guenier...
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And Thomas Jefferson? I don't suggest that we go back to the white male landowners only get to vote of the past, but I don't see the system we have now as working forever without repair either.
 
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