Do you support the war in Iraq?

Do you support the war in Iraq?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 166 65.1%

  • No.

    Votes: 84 32.9%

  • Undecided/Don't Know/Don't care.

    Votes: 5 2.0%
  • Total voters
    255
jefnvk

Perhaps it is better to get out now and watch it crumble, than to wait and watch it crumble later. The costs will only increase as we wait, but ultimately it will crumble.

Not only are our children being killed but we are also spending enough money on Iraq to put every child in the US through college for the next 10 years, to provide benefits to people that will eat those benefits up and then spit in our eye when the benefits are gone.

Our being in Iraq is the most monumental waste of our children's lives, and our money, that could have ever been dreamed up by anyone.
 
The war makes allot of strategic sense and our offense in Iraq has made their offense in the US less more difficult.
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I didn't know Iraq was planning to attack us, I do know that we've created a terrorist's Disney World over there though. The real osama is doing lines of coke in the oval office right now. In 1945 a US Air Force bomber crashed into the upper floors of the Empire State Building while flying in heavy fog, damaging roughly 3 floors and causing a small fire. Funny how that building didn't freefall at the rate of gravity after that happened. WTC building 7 is even more interesting. Sorry if I'm getting off-course here, but it all relates to why I no longer support this illegal and immoral "war".
 
So CyberSEAL, what exactly makes those events coverups? Feel free to give us "proofs" to support your words.
 
Do your own research and draw your own conclusions. I've been looking into some of these events for the past 10 years, and I'm not talking about googling them. Once you have the foundation knowledge, get out there and talk to some of the people involved in the events that interest you the most.

Flight 800 is the most fascinating one to me, obvious cover-up by the NTSB, FAA and FBI. Hundreds of witnesses saw the streak of light and smoke from the missile that took that 747 down off the coast of New York, including off-duty FBI agents and commercial and military pilots. Funny how none of their testimony was used during the investigation. There's a lot more information out there about that incident, a lot. But if you are content to believe your government when they say it was a center fuel tank explosion, which had never happened before in the history of the Boeing 747, that's your prerogative.

Flight 587 is a good one too, many aviation experts and pilots have come forward contesting the governments account of what happened to that one. I don't want to hijack this thread, so if anyone wants to discuss any of these events, create a new one and I'll take part. Frankly, I don't discuss my opinions on these matters with too many people, because they all think I'm crazy, which makes perfect sense when you realize that less than 2% of the country has an IQ over 130.
 
Anything worth doing is worth doing right. I'm not too into half-assed jobs.

And if we pull out now, the press is going to have a field day with how we were defeated by a few insurgents. Their buddies, seeing that the US operations can be crumbled if you get to the press, will be all over us.
 
I could give a rats ass what people think, especially the press, if it means saving American soldier's lives who were unnecessarily put in harms way.
 
Whether we should have invaded or not is now irrelevent. I'll admit at the time I was gung-ho, now looking back....However American prestige is on the line. To cut and run at this point is completely unacceptable. We MUST have victory, even if it means another 100,000 dead Iraqi civilians, and another few thousands of our soldiers. I am not condoning the murder of their civilians by any means but only (IMO) with percieved American strength by the rest of the world will we have any form of peace. If we run now how seriously will future enemies like China, NK or Iran take the threat of American action? Win, win at all costs.

Shawn
 
Let the people who are walking the walk be heard. Not us sitting here in the States on our asses.
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Let Mom, Dad, brother, sister, grandma , grandpa, cousin, uncle, aunt, and friend vote there beliefs as if they had a vested interest too. What are you afraid of? Bush will still make his 9 PM bedtime. It turns my stomach to say so but Clinton is/was a much better leader/President than Bush. :barf:
 
Hi Telewinz,

Clinton was a better leader :eek: :eek: . If you don't remember ask a adult why Hillbilly Bill sent our troops to Haiti. Gee now there was a threat to National security. How about Bosnia? Can't let a "world power" like that get out of hand now can we.
Bottom line this boils down to loyal Americans, who support our country and our troops, and you liberal Dems who are still pissed that traitor Kerry lost the election. Look at the poll numbers. YOU LIBERAL COWARDS ARE STILL IN THE MINORITY.Thank God we have more strong Americans with brains here.

Kevin
 
YOU LIBERAL COWARDS ARE STILL IN THE MINORITY.Thank God we have more strong Americans with brains here.
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Let me get this straight.

From what I am gleaming from your post, there is no valid reason to oppose the war in Iraq. Furthermore, anyone who doesn't support the war in Iraq is a liberal coward who is not a strong American and has no brain. This includes all the people who voted "no" on the above poll.

Does that about cover it?
 
May have been mentioned but are we all forgeting that the UN had placed how many resolutions on Iraq after gulf war one. And zero of them were being enforced by the UN. We can not take any chances with anyone anywhere because it is too easy for us to be attacked. There were weapons in Iraq that violated the resolutions, they may not have been massive stock piles like Bill Clinton, Al Gore, and John Kerry told us in the late 90's/ eary 2000's, but they were illegal weapons none the less. We attacked Iraq because they were not following the resolutions sanctioned upon them after desert storm. We did not know what was happening there and we could not take any more chances. Yes we shoud be there because it was a matter of time until the un watched saddam being funded by the UN through the oil for food program decided to attack again or sponsor his own terrorist attacks. We can not dare pull out of Iraq now either and make all of the deaths of our brave soldiers in vein. Do not buy into all the rediculas media hype. Everyone thinks that no matter what our way of life is guarantee. If we do not be proactive and defend it, such as Iraq, we will lose it faster than you can type illegal war.
 
I'll state my position for the record.

I was in the first Gulf War. I thought our going in to liberate Kuwait was not really wrong, but ill advised. I went anyway, and I'm proud I did. I felt then, and I feel now that given that we had justification for going into Kuwait, we had justification at that time for overthrowing Saddam. We did not because we were trying to preserve our "coalition". I always felt we should have taken Iraq at that time, or just stayed the hell out.

I supported the invasion of Iraq because I felt the WMD issue was real and dangerous. I support our troops then and now. I support war in Iraq. We are not fighting a war in Iraq though. We are nation building. I do not support nation building among a population that is wanting to kill US servicemen. We have not won a war in Iraq. We have stopped short of victory again. We are providing targets for a group of terrorists who look for any reason to kill Americans. We are not only providing targets, we are providing reasons.

I personally believe that if we wanted to be percieved as strong in this region, we should never have turned Saddam over to Iraq's bungling and emerging legal system. We should have tried him ourselves, and executed him swiftly. We need decisive victories that are seen as victories. Big brother helping hands are seen as weakness.

There, I'm off my soapbox now, flame away.
 
Did I initially support the war?

Yes, I was stupid enough to believe the WMD rhetoric.
I also believed that overthrowing Saddam might bring about a democracy or some kind of rationale regime in Iraq that would influence others in the area.

I was wrong on both counts.

As far as some other comments in this thread - well, I hope you sit in a USA Sbarro's pizza place when it gets blown up by some mideast 'freedom' fighter along with a bunch of kids. That seems acceptable to do in Israel. :mad: :mad:

Sorry to be rude. Got a suggestion. Stop calling for the destruction of the Jews. Stop terrorist bombings. Show that you are decent folk and guess what the world will completely support a Palestinian state and the extremist Israelis will be suppressed easily. Live in peace with the Israelis.

If you are in America and disagree, I suggest you join the Mexican freedom fighters trying to return California, Texas, etc. to Mexico or perhaps the entire continent to the Native Americans. Sometimes, countries change. Or aid the Chinese in taking back Taiwan.
 
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