Do you guys drink?

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There are those people who are belligerent drunks and those who are mellow drunks -- I fall into the latter category. I have no problem with carrying while I am drinking, whether it is at home or away from home. Not that I do much drinking away from home -- maybe a pitcher of beer with a meal, but not enough to actually get me drunk. Have ya'll noticed how the pitchers for beer have shrunk over the years? Used to be a pitcher was large enough for 3 or 4 guys when they were out having pizza. These days, the pitchers are "single serving containers".

These days, people are just too uptight about drinking, probably thanks to the that neo-prohibitionist group "MADD". I can remember when it was perfectly socially acceptable to go to the local unofficial dump and make a day of drinking beer and shooting tin cans. If drinking and shooting was so dangerous, why did we never have an AD and why did no one ever get accidentally shot? Of course, back then, it was perfectly acceptable to grab a beer and drink it while stuck in the traffic jam on the way home after work. We had a lot less road rage back then. These days, the drivers are all hyped up on caffeine (Starbucks or "energy" drinks) and they only need the slightest thing to set them off. Back then, if someone wanted to cut in front of us, we would just let them go and keep sipping on our beer.
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Your second paragraph is ludicrous. Sorry but it is. I know 5 people who have been killed by drunk drivers who; presumably were not also "hopped-up" on "energy drinks" and "starbucks." They also thought it was OK to drink and drive I guess. I must verbally attack this nonsense right now: "NEVER EVER DRINK AND DRIVE!"

Your implication that caffeine has a greater affect on judgement and dexterity is scientifically inaccurate as well as unwise advice. Were are your citations for the amount of road rage "back then" versus the present? It sounds like your basing some pretty important judgements on a hunch. How was your shooting knocking down those tin cans? Let me guess? You don't recall? Maybe that is because something was affecting your brain function.

Now I do not think that using/carrying a gun while intoxicated is quite the same level of stupid as drinking and driving; it is a dangerous game to play. What if your shot misses and you hit the neighbor lady across the street? My street are narrow enough that a 9MM would easily still be deadly at that range. You have to think about your target and what is beyond it: can you/will you be able to do that while intoxicated? Will you notice the kids playing behind the murderer charging you and adjust your aim or will you not? This is serious stuff. :mad:
 
I quit drinking back in 2004. I asked Auntie Buck to marry me and she said she would on two conditions, one of them being I quit drinking.

I never really enjoyed going to deer camp either, knowing that the night before the alcohol would flow and some idiot would do something stupid. Never really understood the hunting with a hang-over thing either.

As for drinking and shooting at the dump: I remember a few times people getting shot or hit with ricochets while drinking at the dump. Eventually they just put it off limits.
 
Having a CC permit requires I stay at or below 0.04 when carrying. In my home I'll pour me one or two occasionally when having guests. Other than that I seldom touch it. We two are coffee & tea drinkers in this house.
When hunting only after the hunting day is done and all the guns are safely stored away will I indulge a little. If a guest in my cabin wants to show me his new weapon of choice {pistol or rifle} and has been drinking. I tell him "I'll look at it tomorrow in the days light." If they insist I look. Than I just tell them I prefer they didn't in my cabin. No need to get overly stern about it. Just a little firmness is all that's required. No feelings get hurt. The insistence stops. And we go on having a good time that evening.
 
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Yeah, I just noticed you're in TX.
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Grapevine specifically is a little strange. It is a smallish tourist town. There is an old thread about the local Mills mall being posted. In fact, that mall is the only place almost properly posted in the area (a few store entrances aren't). Not one of the bars along the downtown strip is properly posted, they all have the restaurant signs, not even the 51% signs. I know several CHL holders that frequent this strip just for that reason. There are people locally drinking and carrying, they also drive home.

I am agreed with a few of the folks above. Drinking and driving is far more dangerous than carrying and driving. That's why my wife and I unwind with one at the bar, and if we want more, we head home.

I am also agreed that there are folks that just should not drink. Responsible drinkers aren't necessarily rare, but I also don't think they are a majority. I enjoyed seeing above just how many people on the forum choose not to drink at all. As for my wife and I, we drink, but drinking is largely a home activity which involves a few glasses of wine, or a few beers.

I would like to thank the OP for starting the thread, it is making me think.
 
Originally posted by NavyVet1959:

These days, people are just too uptight about drinking, probably thanks to the that neo-prohibitionist group "MADD". I can remember when it was perfectly socially acceptable to go to the local unofficial dump and make a day of drinking beer and shooting tin cans. If drinking and shooting was so dangerous, why did we never have an AD and why did no one ever get accidentally shot? Of course, back then, it was perfectly acceptable to grab a beer and drink it while stuck in the traffic jam on the way home after work. We had a lot less road rage back then. These days, the drivers are all hyped up on caffeine (Starbucks or "energy" drinks) and they only need the slightest thing to set them off. Back then, if someone wanted to cut in front of us, we would just let them go and keep sipping on our beer.
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Like 8MM Mauser I find it hard that anyone would make a statement like this publicly. What was once socially acceptable back in the good old days didn't make it right, nor did it make it better back then. Used to be chain smoking in a car full of young kids was socially accepted as was giving your wife a black eye when supper wasn't ready on time. Men used to brag while getting drunk about breaking a 2X4 over their kids butt because they talked back and their drunk buddies thought it was cool. Not only is driving drunk illegal, but so is open intoxicants in a vehicle....and for good reason.
 
I am appalled that some people would go hunting after a night of (or while) drinking. This explains a lot of the wounded animals that don't get recovered.

I also agree that NavyVet1959 is very wrong in suggesting that CAFFEINE is as bad as alcohol when behind the wheel. I consider drinking and driving absolutely out of the question (one DUI, and I can't work; my job relies on driving other peoples cars!). Now, when shooting, caffeine is as bad as alcohol, maybe worse. As I previously stated I cut out alcohol, caffeine and sugar at least 24hrs before shooting--BECAUSE IT MAKES YOU SHAKE!

My favorite strategy when going to compete with my buddies is to be the 'nice guy' at take everyone to Starbucks before going to the range 'We'll be out at the range for awhile, get whatever you guys want; I'm buying'. Works everytime, as the 'venti' coffee cups get lower-the groups open up, LOL. I get made fun of for my decaf, sugar free tea but apparently no one has caught on yet!
 
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as the 'venti' coffee cups get lower-the groups open up, LOL. I get made fun of for my decaf, sugar free tea but apparently no one has caught on yet!
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Ha ha, everyone is evil in their own way.

I wouldn't be able to get over the caffeine headache.... I drink lots of coffee at work.....
 
Sorry, NavyVet... I hate to see ya' gettin' b-slapped like this but I have to agree with the others. Yer livin' way too far in the past which isn't necessarily a bad thing... but in this particular instance... it is. We've lost a lot of good behaviors in this country... but a lot of bad behaviors too. Driving drunk is a VERY bad thing. Sorry but MADD was/is right.
 
Don't drink, so not a problem. Just cut out the diet soda this year. Don't feel any different, but it leaves more cash for shooting sports.
 
I drink beer regularly but not in excessive amounts. When I drink I don't drive, hunt, operate machinery, power tools, reload, use guns, or anything else that may cause me to lose a limb, finger, toe, or my life.

It's usually zero for the days I work but I do have the occasional one after work. I love the taste of micro-brews and will probably be getting into home brewing in the near future. I HATE bars.

I'd recommend never to drink and drive. It's your choice, just remember that when you get a DUI, go to jail, get your license suspended, have to hire a lawyer, have to go to court, have to go to alcohol classes, victim panels, and god forbid you hurt someone and face more severe criminal charges like vehicular assault or vehicular homicide. After the entire court thing you have to pay and maintain a interlock device in your vehicle to even drive. Go ahead and hire another attorney because your getting sued by the victim. You may also lose your job depending on what you do for a living. (I've never had a DUI but that does not sound fun or worth the risk.)
 
I hardly ever drink anymore, maybe 3 or 4 drinks in a year. I used to enjoy it, now not so much. I never got into trouble because of it I guess I just lost the taste for it.
 
I just remembered this today on my way into work.

Last summer I attended a wedding reception at a wealthy friends house out in the country.
There was a lot of alcohol being served and the host had his share to drink. During the course of the evening, one of the young men began to flirt with his daughter. He didn't approve of the young man and things became physical whereby the host was struck in the face. The altercation was broken up and the young man left with several of his friends.

A few hours later, a vehicle not recognized by the homeowner pulls into the driveway, a couple of people get out who are also not recognized by the homeowner (he was drunk enough to not recognize my step son) and he pulls his gun. The young men got back in the car and drove away. As it turns out, they were there to retrieve the vehicle belonging to the young man who was involved in the earlier altercation.

I do believe that had they tried to talk to him or approach him, they may well have been shot.

While I am very happy that everyone escaped unharmed, I defended his actions to my wife. Who I'm sure you can imagine was furious. I explained that he had already been assaulted once that evening and he was known to keep large amounts of cash and jewelry about his house. But, her son was involved so that was that.

What do the rest of you think?
 
I can't say I've NEVER had a drink (alcohol), but I know it's been at least 20 years since I had one. I can say I've never even been "buzzed." It has nothing to do with guns, or my religious beliefs or anything that deep. I just never cared for the taste of the stuff.
 
I love the taste of the stuff, especially good wine and whiskey. But I love it more when I haven't had any in a while. I probably average 4-5 drinks a month... but not all at once. ;)
 
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I love beer. It makes me a jolly good fellow.....

I would never carry outside my home with alcohol in my system.

But, inside my castle, if I have a beer (or 2) and someone decides to invade,I would not hesitate to defend my family.
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Same here. But a case of beer probably lasts me a couple months. Just don't drink the same since I got old. However, even though I follow the law about carrying outside the home, I never disarm due to having a beer or two at my house. I'll simply stay home after that.
 
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