Do you believe in car guns?

Clifford L. Hughes

Dougbull:

I believe in car guns. However my local police department doesn't.


Semper Fi.

Gunnery Sergeant
Clifford L. Hughes
USMC Retired
 
I don't want any of my guns arming criminals, so no, no car guns here. On a long trip inside of Arizona I will bring my sub2000, but it goes inside with me on arrival.

I always have one on me anyway, so it would be pointless. Given how fast a car can be cleaned out it seems a bit irresponsible to leave a gun in your car in any situation that can be avoided with foresight.
 
Forgive me if I repeat someone else's thoughts, but here's my take:

I kind of have a "car gun" but I won't ever leave one in the car full time. My car gun is the gun I take with me when the large part of the trip will not legally allow carry. I take a Ruger P-95 with me when I go to, say, a baseball game. (and other places)

I know I can't legally carry in the stadium. I also know that my car will be sitting in a parking lot where every punk in a 2-mile radius knows that I will be away from the car for at least 3 hours -- making it the perfect target.

I don't want to lose my daily carry gun to some punk, and I also don't want to take the drive to & from without a handgun. (not to mention... I don't want to return to my home after it's been empty without a handgun on me)

So for those trips, I take my "car gun", the Ruger P-95. Cost me pocket lint to replace if it gets stolen, but keeps me armed for those particular days when I can't legally carry.

I won't leave any firearm in the car all the time, because I don't want it stolen. And to add to the point I hinted at earlier, I don't like entering my home without a handgun on me, and if I had a car gun... it would be in the car and I'd be unarmed entering the house. No thanks.
 
I keep a cheap reliable gun in my glovebox and I carry but find I am quicker to grab my glovebox gun than to draw with my seatbelt on.

Why all the whining about someone breaking in your car at that point you are just a statistic and they would have no way of knowing a gun was in your car.

The cheap gun would cost less than to replace the window.
 
1) A "cheap gun" isn't what I want to use to protect myself and my family

2) I don't want to be feeding the monster that is the criminal black market for guns that are used in crimes, supplying more ammo to the anti-gun zealots and causing grief for victims of gun violence not to mention the stupid kids who get a hold of one of these and shoot themselves or their kid sister by accident

3) Don't much look forward to calling up the local police and reporting a stolen gun to them, more to add to the statistics, and BTW, it's the law where I live to report it

4) Don't much care for the idea that a serial numbered handgun that I bought new from a dealer, who's serial number is tied to my name, address and SSN might end up at a crime scene where (as soon as the records are pulled) will bring the police to my front door asking ME why my pistol was found next to the dead crack addict with the hole in her head.

But sure appreciate your well-thought out post about other's "whining."
 
Leaving the gun in the car 24/7 when you could just as easily bring inside when you're home seems kind of lazy.

Whenever I'm out of the home, the G23 is with me. When I'm back home, it comes back in too.
 
1) A "cheap gun" isn't what I want to use to protect myself and my family

2) I don't want to be feeding the monster that is the criminal black market for guns that are used in crimes, supplying more ammo to the anti-gun zealots and causing grief for victims of gun violence not to mention the stupid kids who get a hold of one of these and shoot themselves or their kid sister by accident

3) Don't much look forward to calling up the local police and reporting a stolen gun to them, more to add to the statistics, and BTW, it's the law where I live to report it

4) Don't much care for the idea that a serial numbered handgun that I bought new from a dealer, who's serial number is tied to my name, address and SSN might end up at a crime scene where (as soon as the records are pulled) will bring the police to my front door asking ME why my pistol was found next to the dead crack addict with the hole in her head.
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I don't believe that I have seen anyone suggest that you do any of the things that you listed above against your will. It is your right to do as you please concerning this topic. I have not read any post on this thread where anyone was "whining" about you choosing to not have a car gun, yet it is absolutely acceptable for you to **** and moan about anyone that chooses to leave a gun in a car.

BTW, Where is the post admonishing people for leaving guns in their home when they do not have a gun safe in their home. More guns are stolen from homes many times over than are stolen from cars and a stolen gun is a stolen gun regardless of where it is stolen from. A gun stolen from car does not ad more to the statics than a gun stolen from a home. A gun stolen from a car is not anymore likely to be used in a crime than a gun stolen from a home. Most gun owners do not have a gun safe.....yet they leave guns in their home every day and go about their business and even go on vacations for a week or weeks at time and leave their guns unattended.

To insinuate that it is morally wrong to leave a gun in a car is a JOKE.
 
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This was posted immediately after my post.
Why all the whining about someone breaking in your car at that point you are just a statistic and they would have no way of knowing a gun was in your car.
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I have no problem with folks that want to do it their way, I merely countered someone who accused myself and others of "whining" for wanting to do it our way.
More guns are stolen from homes many times over than are stolen from cars
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As if you have any way to cite your made up "facts."
 
I do not know the statistics, and I certainly don't want guns to fall into the wrong hands. However if you park in a lot with a few hundred or a few thousand other cars, it is not highly probably that your car that will be selected for burglary, or even that the particular lot will be targetet.

That is why we should not leave guns, purses, wallets, computer bags, and any package at all in view. The crooks will usually pick an easy mark.

I don't even leave a jacket or paper sack in my car. I would hate to have my car damaged by some idiot who thinks he can break and snatch a "treasure."

So I won't go so far as to complain about whiners. But for goodness sakes, if you want a gun in your car and you can legally stash it, then do so and do not worry.
 
I am highly in favor of the car gun option and have one myself because I want to be prepared and can't carry at work. If you really don't want to give the thieves any ammo to continue their dirty work, then drive only old junkers with steel wheels and no entertainment systems, GPS units, TVs, etc. I choose to do otherwise.

Unlike many, I have a garage that I can actually fit both my cars into, and do so every night. If you have a garage filled with junk and have to leave your car(s) outside because of it, I suggest that you re-examine your priorities and get busy. Your neighbors may appreciate it as well.
 
Unlike many, I have a garage that I can actually fit both my cars into, and do so every night.

spacecoast, just curious, why not bring the gun in at night and take it with you again when you leave in the AM?
 
why not bring the gun in at night and take it with you again when you leave in the AM?
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Purely convenience. I have enough other stuff to carry (computer, lunch, gym bag, etc.) and remembering to pick up a loaded gun (safely) and get it out to the car costs time that I don't have, and I would probably forget it more often than not given my early onset Alzheimer's ;). I'm not concerned about arming the criminals, they have plenty of other sources of guns and would likely laugh at my old Model 10 anyway, since it's not a "Glock fotay".
 
I tend to keep a gun in the car pretty frequently. It's hidden out of sight - realistically for your car to be targetted for theft out of all the others on the lot, the thief needs to KNOW there's something good in there to take. There's only going to be able to hit one car before the alarms send them slinking off to another area to hit up. No use risking arrest unless they know there's a payoff.

Plus, I drive a Hyundai - it's a well cared for purty Hyundai (Tiburon), but it's a Hyundai nonetheless - nobody steals those, and the popular perception of Hyundai drivers is that they're broke :)

Heck it becomes a necessity for CCW holders here in SC anyways. There are so many different places we're not allowed to carry that you inevitably end up having to remove your gun and leave it in the car occasionally.
 
realistically for your car to be targetted for theft out of all the others on the lot, the thief needs to KNOW there's something good in there to take.
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No. I had the window of a 1979 Dodge Diplomat busted out so some crack hungry moron could rifle through the glove box to find there was nothing in it. Geez, any idiot could look at the car and see 2 car seats in the backseat which would be a pretty good indication that the owner probably doesn't have anything of worth stealing that they'd leave in the car. It even had the stock Chrysler radio!

While a sophisticated thief might survey, stalk, plan and then pounce on a target of value, most of the thefts from cars are performed by punks looking for a piece of matter they can transform into their next high. Any target of opportunity that happened to be close to the idiot when the desire to get high sparked a synapse deep inside his melon will be hit.
 
As I mentioned in my post, I feel my car is at greatest risk when I park at an event -- a sporting event is perhaps the easiest. They see you roll up (with hundreds, thousands of others), they know where you are headed (especially if you are wearing gear of the team), so they know almost for certain how long you'll be gone.

They don't look over a lot of 350 cars and pick yours... they hit as many of them as they can as quickly as they can, most likely based upon where they are parked.

Absolutely, when you leave something (anything!) that looks like a bag or briefcase, you are asking for trouble. Gotta love the folks that get out and place purses in the trunk... But when I'm parked at an event, my concern is that they know their "audience" is detained for a certain amount of time.
 
I don't leave a handgun in the car overnight but any vehicle I ever owned had a long gun in it. I keep a Maverick 12ga. folder in the wife's car and my patrol rifle is in my car. If the need arises and I have the time I always will opt for a rifle or shotgun.
 
I had a dedicated car gun a few years ago and it was stolen out of the car. I was lucky enough to get it back but never again. I always have one on me so there is really no point.
 
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