Do you believe in car guns?

On a side note, I am somewhat dismayed by the fact that you list your home state as part of your post...but cannot spell your home state correctly. Certainly casts a bit of a shadow over your post, and your credibility...just sayin".
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Well we will just have to agree to disagree, but thanks for pointing out the mispell. I'm dismayed it had been that way for years now:eek:.
 
Absolutely. there almost always a pistol in the CC of my truck. usually a Smith M58 41 Mag. there is also an 870, marlin Model 60, and a Mosin Nagant in the truck toolbox. I live in MS 30 min. from my farm and necer know when I may need one of them. the .41 is for protection. the long guns are for if I want to go hunting or shoot something unexpectedly. there have been numerous times i wanted to go deer hunting and put my Mosin to use. same with the 870 & .22 for impromptu ducks, squirrels, of skeet. Now if I lived somewhere like Atlanta, i would probably only have my CC piece on my person. too much of a chance og a break in somewhere like that.
 
To say that it is more responsible not to leave a gun in an unattended car is not the same as saying that you are responsible for the actions of someone who steals a gun from your car. If you leave your front door unlocked, the person who steals your stuff is still a thief, and you still erred in your judgment or execution and made it easier for the thief to do you ill.

In the area that I live, auto burglaries are common enough that I choose not to contribute to arming the criminal population by leaving a gun in the car when I can help it. When I am forced to do so by laws restricting the possession of firearms in certain locations, I secure my carry pistol in a lockbox designed for that purpose. Everyone has a choice of how secure they want their firearms to be.
 
Teer I believe ya! I can't spell either LOL, Maryland is easier to spell then your home state:DI also think it is just plain rude to pick on someone for a spelling error, but a lousy speeler like me would :D
 
Wasn't all that long ago that about the only way you could have a gun for SD outside the home in many areas was to have it in your vehicle. Some places are still like that. Were/are some stolen? I'm sure. Did some guns suffer from the experience? Once again, yes.

But a gun is nothing more than an object with a price tag attached. No one here is gonna jump up and yell "I have a gun in my car, come and get it as soon as I'm outta sight" but keeping a gun in your vehicle with a reasonable amount of security isn't that big of a deal. Not a fan of tossing it onto the dash or hanging it in the rear window but under/behind seats, in glove boxes or consoles, locked in secured storage (while unattended), etc isn't that big of a deal. But then again I would do thoose things with anything that I may deem valueable to me or someone else. Even with a permit there are lots of places I'd just as soon not have a gun on me and some areas it's illegal to do have one even with a permit. But then I don't live in a war zone either.

Also needs to be brought up that some guns just can't holstered or carried. Some prefer to have a rifle or shotgun in their vehicle. Some for hunting, some for a trip to the range after work, some for defence, etc. Many of the folk who think only a fool would leave his handgun in his vehicle would think nothing of leaving a rifle in the trunk while running into the store or while at work. Gun = gun. Handgun, rifle or shotgun makes no difference.

Now I do question those who might be prone to leave a gun in a vehicle overnight in an unsecured location. If you don't have locked, off street parking you're better off talking the gun in every night.

It's nothing more than a $100-$500 replaceable piece of goods. Keep the serial number handy and report it stolen immediately.

LK
 
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Many people in Illinois have "car guns", because of the restrictive gun laws. You can't carry in Illinois, but you could have a firearm in the vehicle with you.

There were further statutes to regulate that and the law now for transporting firearms in a vehicle is that the firearm be transported:

1. Unloaded, and
2. Enclosed in a case, and
3. By persons who have a valid FOID card.

Having said that, there are ways of transporting it that can make it less accessible or more accessible.

But the point is - for some people having a gun in the car is one way they are able to have a gun accessible for as large a percentage of the time as possible.

I don't know if that constitutes a "car gun" or not...
 
What if you work on federal property and if you even have a permit you can't carry your firearm into the work area? Or you employer doesn't allow firearms even with a permit to be carried into your work area? There are some small lock boxes that you can but for under the seat storage with cable locks.
 
dougbull
Do you believe in car guns?
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Definitely! Even though I may have some type of CCW (NAA Mini or KT P32) on me most of the time I will be the first to admit that it is woefully underpowered for anything more than a shoot and run like hell in the other direction scenario.

I can't carry anything bigger than a mouse gun at my job. I keep heavier iron in the car with extra mags & gear because one never know what they can run across, be it civil unrest, car broken down in bad area, or whatever. Some may call it irresponsible, but I say that in my situation, it is more irresponsible to not do it.

I mean, is any one of the judgmental types going to tell my wife and kids that they're very sorry that I got killed because my car died in a bad part of town or got torn up by a mob BUT I did the right thing by not keeping a gun locked in my car? My car is a crappy little 5-speed econo-box with a stock radio and crap throughout. Yes, I do this on purpose, because I like to stay under the radar. I seriously doubt that it will be anyone's first choice to break into.
 
All Ii will ay is alot of my buddies have had their "car guns" stolen from out of their cars. Mine will stay with me in or out of the car.
 
Who cares what someone else thinks as long as it is legal. What someone thinks about car carry will have no bearing on whether I have a gun that stays in my car providing that it is legal for it to be left there.

If you chose to not leave a gun in your car that is your choice and I support it....if it is my choice to leave a gun in my car, I will do that whether you support my choice or not.
 
I guess whether or not it makes sense is location dependent. For me, here, no.

1. I drive old cars and leave the doors unlocked. Don't want anyone breaking a window to find out there's nothing inside.
2. I believe in CT, if someone is wounded with a loaded weapon stolen from me that did not have a trigger lock on it I can be held liable. Even if I'm not, I can't afford the legal fees to protect myself..
3. If I'm not in the car and something bad goes down, my cars are not trained in the use of firearms and wouldn't be able to defend themselves.

I view the right of firearm ownership as coming with certain responsibilities, and leaving a loaded firearm unattended in a vehicle on property I do not control does not strike me as being responsible.

As always, YMMV.
 
The problem is if for some reason your wife\buddy\mistress borrows your car and you forget about the gun, they are now in possetion of a concealed weapon without a permit and can get into some hot water. I had an Uncle who forgot he had a .22 pistol in his glove compartment and drove into the canadian border crossing, wasnt a fun situation for him.
 
I know of someone years ago that found a loaded .38 under the drivers seat of a used MGB that he had bought from a classic car dealer.
 
I would never leave a gun in a car unattended. The only time I might come close to such an act is when I am entering a federal building and cannot carry. Then in that case I lock my gun in a Nanovault car safe under the seat.
 
I don't like the idea of leaving a gun in the car unattended. Weather someone breaks in your car or steals the car itself the gun is gone and will more than likely be used in a crime. Your defensive firearm has now switched sides to an offensive firearm that YOU could of prevented someone from obtaining. I can't count how many "my gun got stolen out of my car" stories I've read through the years. I find it funny when I read posts like "I leave my so & so gun in the car because if its gets stolen I'm only out $100." or something similar to that. Yea, that's great but its still a gun and you still armed someone who shouldn't be armed since they are obviously a criminal to steal your possessions in the first place.

Having one with you on a trip is a different story though as long as you transport it from the car to your destination after your trip is over. If your going to leave a gun in the car 24/7 though or even for a short time, keep it in a lock box that is either bolted to the floor, cable tied around something permanent like the frame of a seat and then keep the box under the seat as well. They also make lockable center console inserts for most SUVs and trucks.

Here is the type I have in my vehicle incase I can't take my carry gun into certain buildings like a court house or post office: http://www.amazon.com/Secure-Handgun-Storage-Safe-Key/dp/B000HBB15U
The cable goes around my seat frame and easily slips under the seat out of view.

I'd suggest to also make sure your primers and case necks are sealed on your ammo for those who store a gun 24/7 in their vehicle. Temperature changes and high humidity can happen quickly in an enclosed space like a car. You should also check on the firearm once in awhile to make sure nothing is rusting out or corroding.

Easy way to prevent all of this is to get a concealed carry permit then no matter where you are, your gun is right there with you. States that don't have CCW may allow the transport of an unloaded gun in a "day planner" that is available for the sole reason of carrying a gun with the loaded magazine in the same compartment but not inserted into the gun. This allows the gun to go from your home, to your car and then taken with you at your destination where you can keep it on your person or lock it up to retrieve it later. This can also work for those who carry conceal as it is a discreet way to transport your concealed piece from one point to the next.

There are lots of options out there to prevent just leaving a gun in a car 24/7. You just need to do some research and figure out what works best. Its really not hard to do.
 
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I sure do ... I've had a Taurus 85 and a speedloader in my glovebox for years ... I keep it in a gunsock, with a silicon treatment, and the gun looks the same as it did when new, never had a bit of problems with rust ... I shoot it a few times a year, mostly to swap out the ammo ... there are many places, even in Texas, where I can't go armed and having a gun in the car, at least, is comforting .. I understand the issue of theft, but my car is not used extensively and when I'm out, the glovebox is locked, as is the car ... spclPatrolGroup has a point about others in the car, but in Texas, if it's legal for you to own a gun, it's legal to have one concealed in your car ...
 
Libyan Rebel's Car guns

Machine guns mounted to PU trucks. That would cut down on tail-gaters with their high-beams, or those annoying flashing red and blue lights, on. [joking!]
 
I totally agree with the car gun concept. I do not agree with leaving weapons in a vehicle overnight. The concept seems to be lost on some, but a 357 in the glove-box does not a car gun make. Sure, have a pistol on yer side in a holster but have a longarm in the car just in case.

A short Rifle or carbine is a car gun and...yes, but it goes back in the house at night.
 
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