Denied at the background check

[blume357]

Well let us know how it works out at the gun shop

I suspect and hope it will be a fast call in now that you have a number.

As a side note, there is nothing wrong with your alternative method of purchasing a gun... at a gun show.

As I've said, here in my state I can go into a gun shop and buy what ever they have without the background check...because our CWP is recognized as the back ground check..

This does not stop me from still going to gun shows and looking and if I have a few extra hundred dollars in my pocket doing a private transaction. At the gun shows here... it depends on the private seller as to what they ask for... some want proof of state residency and such... some just ask for the money.

keep in mind, in most cases.. my experience at gun shows is you will pay 50-100 bucks more for a handgun in a private sale than if that same gun was at your local 'retail' shop.

 

[dogtown tom]

blume357:...As I've said, here in my state I can go into a gun shop and buy what ever they have without the background check...because our CWP is recognized as the back ground check..

You never answered my question on page 2 of this thread:

Quote:
I was convicted of a crime way back in 1978 that could have landed me in jail for way more than a year...

So how do you answer question 11.c on the Form 4473?

Form 4473
Question 11c. Have you ever been convicted in any court of a felony, or any other crime, for which the judge could have imprisoned you for more than one year, even if you received a shorter sentence including prohibition?

 

[Fish_Scientist]

Question 12c. Have you ever been convicted in any court of a felony, or any other crime, for which the judge could have imprisoned you for more than one year, even if you received a shorter sentence including prohibition?

There is an exception to this:

EXCEPTION 1: A person who has been convicted of a felony, or any other crime, for which the judge could have imprisoned the person for more than one year, or who has been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence, is not prohibited from purchasing, receiving, or possessing a firearm if: (1) under the law where the conviction occurred, the person has been pardoned, the conviction has been expunged or set aside, or the person has had civil rights (the right to vote, sit on a jury, and hold public office) restored AND (2) the person is not prohibited by the law where the conviction occurred from receiving or possessing firearms. Persons subject to this exception should answer “no” to 12c or 12i, as applicable. A person who has been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence also is not covered by the prohibition unless: (1) the person was represented by a lawyer or gave up the right to a lawyer; and (2) if the person was entitled to a jury, was tried by a jury or gave up the right to a jury trial. Persons subject to this exception should answer “no” to 12i.

In some states, a felons' civil rights are automatically returned to them after they have completed any and all sentences and probations. In other states, felons must petition the court where they were convicted to have their civil rights restored. After a court-ordered restoration of civil rights, application can be made into the VAF (referred to by EngineerMike) with documents proving such restoration of rights.

I am not a lawyer and do not give legal advice. You assume all responsibility for your particular legal situation.

Fish

 

[dogtown tom]

Fish_Scientist,

I don't know where you copied that quote from but the paragraph numbers are incorrect.

There is no "12.c." on the current Form 4473 (in use since 2008)

The information regarding exceptions is correct. I posted this back on page 2.

 

[ChrisWNY]

I hold a CCW permit. In the state I live in, all I have to do to purchase any firearm is produce my Drivers License and CCW permit. No phone calls, as I've already been approved by all law enforcement. Check out your states regs. This is as simple as going to a gun shop and asking the clerk behind the counter.
Ralph

This is probably the one and only benefit to NY's overzealous and highly restrictive pistol permit laws. Since each and every permit holder has gone through extensive background checks, fingerprinting, and an investigation by law enforcement, purchasing firearms only requires ID (Driver's License) and the CCW permit. There is a $3 fee to register a handgun on a permit, beyond that, no background checks or phone calls.

 

[Fish_Scientist]

Fish_Scientist,

I don't know where you copied that quote from but the paragraph numbers are incorrect.

There is no "12.c." on the current Form 4473 (in use since 2008)

The information regarding exceptions is correct. I posted this back on page 2.

Must have been an older copy of form 4473 that I found. Sorry I forgot about your earlier post.

I think there are a great number of folks out there that think convicted felons are automatically prohibited persons when in reality, provided they are no longer "bad" people and continue to make good choices, their civil rights can be restored quite easily.

Fish