Wildalaska
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What the Applemeister said...
That should obviate the need for anymore of these threads.
WildenoughAlaska ™
That should obviate the need for anymore of these threads.
WildenoughAlaska ™
Obama wanted to make sure voters remembered some of that baggage, but he also raised it in measured tones. He used sympathetic terms in bringing up the cookie quote that led critics to label Clinton as some sort of ultra-feminist.
One thing I definitely did decide on during the excruciating half-hour I mustered for the debate - all of Hillary's faults are due to her saying what she thinks the public wants to hear.......On the other hand, all of Obama's faults are due to him actually believing what he says.
I'm not trying to be mean-spirited, but it actually took this debate to help you come to these conclusions on Hillary and Obama?
What concerns me is how many pro-2nd gun owners, who frequent this board are actually going to vote for one of the two aggressively anti-gun democratic candidates.
Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer, never shy about his fondness for guns, captured the sentiment of many in the rural West when asked by a reporter which guns he owns.
“None of your damn business,” the Democrat said. “That’s the first step in the government coming to get my guns, is telling you what I got.”
but guns are so important.
They are ingrained in American culture from day one.
My gig is the 1st amendment...thats the one that really counts
As we can observe in Canada, they chip away at all of the rights, a little at a time, whenever they perceive public apathy or when they think they can get away with it.
Why? Perhaps some folks feel their selected candidates position on other issues is more important than their stance on guns.
What concerns me is how many pro-2nd gun owners, who frequent this board are actually going to vote for one of the two aggressively anti-gun democratic candidates.
Yes, thats obvious, but we are part of a forum that is pro-gun. That does not mean guns are number one, but at least up there on the list of importance
I think what we are seeing are liberals that are gun owners but they are trying to convince others here that there are other issues besides guns, so It's OK to vote for Obama.
So Hillary is all for the constitutional right, but local governments can have "restrictions" to keep their citizens safe. So every local government puts a gun ban into effect and that's ok? BS.
You know what I find kind of interesting? The number of people (not counting you among them), at least philosophically, seem to think that the fourteenth amendment (and the incorporation of rights under it) was a huge encroachment on states' rights...many who have even argued that abolishing slavery was an encroachment on states' rights...yet think that the second amendment is absolute, and inviolable at either the state or local level.
Political fact: The complete prohibition of firearms on a national basis will never occur.