decocker vs safety on rami

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pfisto22

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mornin,
Just wondering what everyones thoughts are on semis with or without decocker.As I need to make up my mind quickly on a new CZ rami
thanks
 
I greatly prefer a de-cocker over a manuel safety. I really prefer the da/sa manual of arms so the de-cocker is a natural part of that setup. The safety is a redundant feature imo because the da/sa has its own inherent safety features in the manual of arms with the da being a heavier pull to provide that added "safety" against nd or getting something that catches the trigger when holstering the firearm. When holstering I like to "ride the hammer" with my thumb to prevent something catching the trigger. Certainly not full proof over a manuel safety but just what I prefer. By the way great choice of firearm.
 
I want both a decocker and a thumb safety. My HK P30S V3 9mm fits that bill perfectly. The manual safety is the tradional version that works with a slight flick of my thumb. The clever decocker is adjacent to the hammer and functions very intuitively with my thumb, once one uses it a bit. I'm happy with the redundant approach to safe handling.
 
With the safety you can carry cocked and locled, with the benefit of a consistent and more accurate SA trigger pull each time.
 
I am a fan of the decocker only set up. A decocked DA/SA really doesn't need a manual safety, IMO, and I am not a fan of C&L single actions. Just personal preference, so YMMV.
 
I vote for decocker, no safety, especially for carry with a round in the chamber. b/t/w that rami is a sweet gun, a friend just bought one; decocker.

I really don't care for safeties. On the range I have the mag out, the action open, or the gun is in use. Don't carry SA cocked and locked.

b/t/w, opened my birthday present awhile ago, a Wilson Beretta Brigadier 92G. It is decocker, SA/DA. The DA is a long, long, long pull with the lightest weight I've ever felt. The SA is unbelievable. Supposedly, the gun had further internal work by Wilson and was part of a contract for a LE group (SWAT). Hopefully, I'll get it to the range on Tuesday.
 
Yes I have never had a gun with a decocker but the ones I have handled in my search for my next gun I have liked as I am still back and forth between the PCR and the Rami. All good responses THANKS
 
I don't have a Rami, but I do have a couple CZ-75Bs and a CZ-75 PCR. The former have conventional thumb safeties and the latter a decocker.

I really like CZ's decocker. It drops the hammer down to a half cock position, so it's a little lighter than a full DA pull. If I could change my other CZs to a decocker, I would.

There's also the fact that a safety can actually be a liability on a self defense weapon. I've heard too many firearms instructors comment that students often forget to disengage the safety under stress in class. That could be a deadly fumble in an SD situation. I've never forgotten to disengage a safety myself, but it only takes once, at the wrong time. I've actually stopped carrying 1911s for this reason.
 
I had a decocker 75 for ten years and swore it was the way to go...until I bought my 97b. Once you get muscle memory to swipe off that safety for a clean SA first shot, decockers made no sense after that. I would dearly love to have a safety on my P01.

Remember, on the CZ's you can carry hammer down (or half cock) or safety on in SA. It's seriously nothing to lower the hammer manually. The safety version just gives you more options than the decocker model.
 
I would dearly love to have a safety on my P01.
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I think the P-02 is essentially a P-01 with a safety.

Lowering the safety of a Cz 75 to the half cock is very simple and safe, and this is what CZ recommends be done if you want to carry in condition 2.

My LaserLyte tells me the SA trigger generates about four times better precision than the DA trigger does.
 
It's really about what you feel comfortable with/prefer. I have stubby thumbs that have always made swiping the safeties on double stack pistols somewhat difficult.
 
Remember, on the CZ's you can carry hammer down (or half cock) .... It's seriously nothing to lower the hammer manually.
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This is true. I always did this with my CZ-75Bs and CZ-40B when I carried them or stashed them bedside.
 
After owning CZ's with a safety and with a decocker I greatly prefer a safety. To me it gives me more options of manually lowering the hammer for first shot DA or carrying cocked and locked. The other reasons are the safety model's sear cage assembly is simpler so upgrades are IMHO easier to install yourself. The last reason for a safety is the decocker itself. I use to inadvertently decock my P01 on occasion while shooting it. The rear facing decocker has caused me to modify my strong hand grip a little bit. Normally my thumb just sits on top of the manual safety. For the P01 I tuck my thumb up under the decocker so I don't hit it during recoil.
 
Chris in VA said:
It's seriously nothing to lower the hammer manually. The safety version just gives you more options than the decocker model.
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This is very true at the range but what about in the middle of an adrenalin dump after a self defense incident?

I carried a CZ75B for several years and I assumed I'd just lower the hammer manually if I ever had to use it for self defense. Then I was able to participate in some stress inoculation training and I realized just how much fine motor skills really do degrade under stress. I decided I wanted no part of trying to lower the hammer under those conditions.

So to answer the OPs question directly decocker.

To answer the underlying issue I won't carry anything but a striker fired pistol for self defnse
 
^ that is where I am. To me a decocker provides an additional margin of safety. If you want to carry cocked and locked I'd recommend the safety. If you want to carry DA/SA I'd recommend the decocker.
 
"I'd rather have a decocker on a carry gun, a safety on a range gun."

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"If you want to carry cocked and locked I'd recommend the safety. If you want to carry DA/SA I'd recommend the decocker."
 
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