Crimson Trace Grips worth the money?

Mr. Bear-
I am not at all wrong. Having a GPS in your car won't do you one bit of good if you don't know how to drive. Relying on laser sights instead of knowing where your gun will shoot is very risky on a carry gun. Everyone is too lazy to learn to shoot. Everyone thinks short barrelled guns are only for up-close shooting. I'm for using any tools that help, but laser are too easy to rely on, they break, and batteries run down.
You guys play "follow the dot" all you want, but learn to shoot first.
Ken-
Thank you. You are more eloquent than I in many instances.
 
Oh for Pete's sake, we laser fans still use the sights. The laser is a co-witnessing device that confirms what my sight picture is not precisely telling me under less than ideal conditions such as facing into dusk with the sun in the background or going from light to shadow.

If that be a crutch, I'll take it. I've never worn down the batteries, they get changed out every two years, needed or not, rather like a recoil spring.
 
CTs are no substitute for practice, of course. A good gun is no substitute for practice either. I'm not sure there is a substitute for practice, in shooting or anything else you want to do well.

In my case, though, a laser dot can make the difference between being able to see and aim well enough to defend myself in a low-light situation, and not being able to see well enough to take the shot. Yeah, if the batteries wear out, I'm in trouble, so I'll probably change them annually instead of every two to four years. I'll also practice without them as well as with them at the range, and in self defense situations, partly to get a good handle on what I can do and where my limitations are.

But, *man*, is that little red dot helpful. :-)
 
Don't bad-mouth crutches. They are useful tools if you have a bum leg. Been shooting handguns since 1964. Know how to point shoot. Got first Crimson Trace grips last fall. Won't have a carry gun w/out 'em. Old eyes don't work as well as they used to.
 
Oh for Pete's sake, we laser fans still use the sights. The laser is a co-witnessing device that confirms what my sight picture is not precisely telling me under less than ideal conditions such as facing into dusk with the sun in the background or going from light to shadow.
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Nobody disagrees with the usefulness of Laser Grips for experienced shooters.

Its the newbies that can't shoot without them that worries me

Been shooting handguns since 1964. Know how to point shoot. Got first Crimson Trace grips last fall. Won't have a carry gun w/out 'em. Old eyes don't work as well as they used to.
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Yeah well bet if the battery goes dead in a firefight that 45 years of shooting handguns will serve you well...now think of the guy that has fired 200 rounds through his new CCW in his entire life using only the laser :rolleyes:

WildimthinkingofapairformybhpAlaska ™
 
I'm left handed and my right thumb has a tendency to block the laser. I've been taught point shooting (Roger Phillips from Suarez International) and practice it ofter. I still wouldn't mind a laser for left handed shooters.
 
I think their a great tool for a newbie. Dry fire practice. Nothing better than a laser for that.

I think most people (including newbies) know that the laser uses a battery. Heck, CT gives you a set of batteries every year for life. At least they did when I bought mine.

I think they also know that the laser is just another tool for aiming, and like me they train most of the time without it anyway. It's like saying don't get a scope for your 300 win mag rifle, iron sights are better. Actually the laser can get boring after you learn some trigger control because of how easy it is to hit what your shooting at.

Accuracy boils down to one thing, can you hold the sights/laser/whatever you use on target while pulling the trigger and not have it move off target.

You can practice trigger pulls quite a lot with a laser. Well worth it IMHO.
 
I like the concept but I've had some problems with the older side-activated (right side of grip) on a 1911. The newer front-activated units are much better.
 
I have the CT lasergrips on all of my handguns. I definitely recommend them for training and for concealed carry, and for bedside/home defense use. But I will admit that when I take my S&W model 19 to the range to shoot, I do turn off the laser for the same reason that another poster mentioned above. When you point the laser dot at the target and pull the trigger, the bullet goes right where the dot is pointing. That easy accuracy does get boring for recreational target shooting. I use the laser grips for dry firing the gun at home, and it has really improved my trigger control, but for recreational target shooting, they make the gun way too accurate, so I turn the laser off at the range. I don't use that gun for concealed carry or for home defense. The guns I use for those purposes also have laser grips and the laser stays on during dry fire and live fire training.
 
Don't forget to sight them in....

I have them on a Beretta M9 and a S&W 638 and like them quite well, and I own spare batterys...it will start getting slighly dimmer as the batteries start to go, not just fail with no warning. They are at their best when you can't see your sights clearly (or at all)
 
I wish CTC would make the laser flicker like Laser Max...it appears brighter I feel (feel...what kind of engrish is that:rolleyes:)...

I think

WildheydidimentionthattheUSbeatspainnyahnyahAlaska TM
 
Considering I paid $350.00 plus tax for mine I think the 250 that it'll cost you for yours is well worth it. I love mine and will put them on every handgun I purchase but I wont buy them from the shop that I bought my 1st set from. Man I'm tired of grabbing my ankles everytime I buy something in Hawaii.
 
Dude you just call ME when you need stuff and I'll take care of you, us Alaskans have a special relationship with you guys that these folks down on the mainland could never understand.

WildheyyouguysplayfootieoutthereanddidyouknowtheuswhuppedspainAlaska TM
 
I tried out a couple at a gunshow and found that my index finger blocks the beam unless my finger is on the trigger.
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That's irrelevant, really.

The laser is supposed to come on as you raise the gun to the target in the very act of shooting. And it is supposed to go off as you lower the gun, or if you draw the gun to low ready. So it does not matter that your trigger finger (properly indexed high on the frame) blocks the laser when you are not shooting. The laser is only supposed to be activated during the time you are actively shooting.

Get a good grip with your hands where they need to be. Without otherwise adjusting your hands, tighten your grip to activate the light. Loosen just your middle finger (or whichever finger is over the switch) to keep the light off, again without otherwise adjusting your hands. Practice drawing and working in low ready without the light coming on, and practice tightening your grip to activate the light as you raise the gun to fire.

And don't fret about your finger blocking the laser beam when the laser is not in use. ;)

pax
 
May I point out to you folks who utilize ambis on your 1911s to accomodate your distaffness, that the Lasergrips wont work without an ambi modification

WildthoughtiwouldtossthatinasiwatchreplaysofthegreatvictoryAlaska TM
 
I don't know about Crimson Trace, but the green lasers are LOTS BRIGHTER.
I have seen them for long guns. Don't know about for pistols.
 
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