Coyote Ethics?

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Storebought meat doesn't taste the same as wild meat. Doesn't matter how you cook it, it's different. So, everybody has an equal right to the flavors they prefer...

Coyotes? They compete with me for quail, is about the only reason I mess with them some. I'd get serious if I were in the sheep/goat business.

And if I lived on the outskirts of Tucson and had little kids in the neighborhood, I'd be pretty rough on all coyotes, just to try to avoid repetitions of attacks.
 
Ref Wolves

Wolves were imported to Western Wyoming, not even the same wolves native to the state by some idiot town folk who know nothing about them.

They are destroying the elk herds, they like their little cousins, kill for fun.

I fear they will drift to the Big Horns, then the Black Hills, I see one, I'll send 'em to hell just as fast as I would a coyote. Just last week some roaming dogs ham strung one of my horses, wolves are worse, I wont allow wolves on my property.
 
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Last year I eliminated over 40 coyotes and am well on my way to that number again this year. Coyotes have an adverse impact on the small game and deer population here-especially the fawns.
 
They'd feel different if their pets were consumed. I look at it from the perspective that Coyotes are voracious eaters of game and birds. Every one I poke is one less to take game away from me.
 
vermin

Vermin (noun) an animal that appears abundant and harmful to my agenda.
example- beavers in a pond I own. Things that eat turkeys or turkey eggs(coyotes,racoons,armadillos,bobcats). ACLU Lawyers. ect ect...

I shoot vermin.
 
On the other hand......

......when I was spending a year farming in Doniphan County, Kansas, across the river from St. Joseph, MO, I was having a desperate war against rabbits that were devastating the cantalope field. I killed as many rabbits as I could but they seemed to multiply faster than I could shoot them. It was hopeless. Then one day in mid August, I saw a coyote crossing a neighbor's field. I hadn't seen any coyotes all year but over the next few days a saw perhaps four at different times. About a week later there were no more rabbits to be seen and all damage to the cantalope field came to an end. The coyotes saved my cantalopes. Evidently it was an itinerant band that hadn't been there all year 'til then. I wish they'd been there all along. In this case they deserve my praise. So coyotes are good but there is such a thing as too much of a good thing becomes a bad thing. If there were so many around that I was losing livestock to their depredations I would sing a whole different tune. But 'til then I won't be shooting coyotes because they've done me a favor. You all that really do need to kill coyotes have my approval; if I were there I'd be right with you. Since I've seen the other side of the issue I thought it would be unfair to not mention it.
 
I'm thinking that killing coyotes has become something other than hunting for fur. I used to shoot everyone I saw,skin them out and have a nice fur.I killed one in MT in the early 80's that fetched $175.00! Now folks are out there shooting them and leaving them rot.Here in WY there is not a huge population of coytoes, they have been well controlled with shoot on sight attitudes. I have yet to find a population of coyotes worth the the time or effort to pursue during prime pelt periods in WY.Now Nevada is over run with them.When you can see 5-10 of them from the interstate you have a coyote problem,CA has a coyote problem as well.I think shooting them where heavy populations exist is fine and I would partake in such an event not the wanton sluaghter of a reduced population and leave them to rot.They do provide a valuable service but unchecked they will be destructive,it's all a matter of balance.
 
Now folks are out there shooting them and leaving them rot.
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If someone I know wants the hide, then I'll take the yote to them and they'll typically either bury the carcass or burn it.

If nobody wants the hide, I pile the yotes up with some brush, sprinkle some diesel fuel on it all, and set fire to it. My family does this with all of our game carcasses and remains after harvesting the meat, no need to leave a gut pile to attract more freakin coyotes around the house and barn...
 
I don't hunt or kill Coyote, but I don't personally have a problem with them raiding my farm! If I did ... I would be singing a different tune. ;)

I personally don't hunt or kill anything that I don't plan on using all of to my benefit. Deer can be broken down to nothing if prepared properly. Deer hides, antlers, bones and teeth all go with me to the National Muzzle Loading Rifle Association Rendezvous each Spring in Friendship, Indiana. There I can trade the hides, teeth, and bones to fur traders for crafts, and the antlers go to flintknappers there on site. The sinew goes to arrow fletchers and primitive weapons makers there as well. The meat stays in my freezer to feed me year round! ;)

I personally think it's a disgrace to kill a deer and cut out the backstrap to leave the carcass to rot. It's the equivalent of someone killing a human to harvest the kidneys and leaving them lay! A true hunter respects all life as being sacred.
 
I wonder if there isnt some kind of Psychology behind a hesitation to kill coyotes. Perhaps people see the Coyote as being so close to Rover in appearance they almost feel like it is murder or at least as bad as shooting someones dog.

In contrast there are some people who hate dogs that hunt and seem to not have a conscience at all when it comes to whether to kill a coyote or not.

My answer to the issue if it is because of the Rover identity perception is that Rover is no more human than the ant hunting for beetle grubs in your backyard. An ant has a desire to live, it has emotions. It can fear for its life, it can get agitated or angry, it can intelligently communicate with its nest mates. Yet most people would never think twice to stomp one into the ground.

So are insects lives sacred? A fishes life? A trees life?
 
We shoot feral dogs too as they

can be worse than Yotes. My neighbor lost two horses that were run through a plain wire fence by a pack of trailer trash "Rovers" that were let run 24/7/365.
Dog on my property gets one warning, if I know the owner, if not or second time, out comes the 223.
Yotes, Wolves and uncontrolled dogs are not that different.

Man is the apex predator.
 
Coyotes typically eat mostly rodents and in some areas are given credit for controlling their populations. Seem to recall accounts of midwest farming areas in the thirties that elimininated coyotes through trapping and poison and were soon overrun with rats, mice and rabbits. Some wildlife biologists feel that the coyote populations rise and fall with the availability of rodents and don't need our "help" in controlling their numbers. Unfortunately some also prey on deer and livestock, others attack family pets and even people on rare occasion. I don't have a problem shooting coyotes in areas where they are causing problems. I feel feral dogs and coydogs pose a larger threat and make better targets but that's quite possibly offtopic and may offend some city folks.
 
Nothing surprising about coyotes expanding into the east. Changes in farming/ranching styles, with less need for predator control. Fewer chickens and lambs to protect meant the coyotes were expanding into safe territory. Plenty of natural foods for them. Coyotes are noted as opportunists.

Species expansion is nothing new. At one time, there were no armadillos east of Louisiana. Now they are down in Florida and are in south Georgia that I know of. Westward expansion is limited by the lesser rainfall as one goes west from central Texas.

Where the habitat is suitable, a species is likely to eventurally find its way there.
 
Yotes have always been in the East. They were not "introduced"

They've been in the Adirondaks for 100s of years. They vastly expanded their range in the 1970s and on since more and more farm land went into suburbs (lots of tender cats to eat and no hunting) and the huge explosion of the deer herd. (Ditto "Painters" aka Puma)
The "they just eat mice" myth was a canard sold by the tree huggers...you haven't lived until you've seen a mule deer fawn being eaten alive by three Yotes with the mother doe frantically trying to save her fawn. Happily they were so busy, they missed me and my AR and one was a nursing bitch, so I probably eliminated 8-10 of the killers.:D Unhappily the fawn did not survive.:mad:

Man is the apex predator!
 
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