Coyote Ethics?

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I don't like shooting priarie dogs, squirrels and even foxes, but I will shoot every coyote and wild hog I legally can. I hunted them seriously the 14 years I lived in AZ, and while I respect them, I nail them if I can.

Sorry about your minpin, they are my favorite dogs, and you get very attached to them. I actually hunted coyotes with one of my females, I would put her in a crate about 40 yards away from me and she would bark her head off. Called a few coyotes, but the dying rabbit call worked better!
 
I say all the best meat they already sell at the supermarkets ;)

When I said I have given feral hogs away, it was pre-arranged sombody was waiting in the wings to collect the carcass.....if its not convenient I dragged them off.

any other varmint is dispatched and chucked in the pasture.
 
My only qualms with it is that it is still one of God's creatures. Peetzakiller had it right...as long as you give it a humane kill go right ahead. I would hunt them, but we don't have any here in the lower part of SC.

The only reason I said that gentlemen is because on another site some guys were braggin about hitting them wherever and betting on where they could hit the coyote with their friends. It kind of disturbed me and made me realize that for the most part I'm glad it seems that we have some ethical hunters here. No comment from me if you at least give the vermin a humane kill.
 
I guess it's where you live and whether you have to deal with them.
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That is certainly a valid point. I wouldn't go shoot a coyote or praire dog for fun, but if they'd taken my calf or my horse broke a leg I wouldn't hesitate to dispatch them.
 
Ha, most of the vermin I shoot(smaller ones anyway) pretty much explode so there is nothin unethical about that, they are dead.. no doubt about that... But coyotes up here in MT are a problem to the ranchers and even in the little town of 300 people I live in, they have come in to the town and snatched dogs, cats, and hurt or killed the larger pets. They are an issue, so whenever I get the chance they get ghosted..:D
 
What's the biggest coyote you guys have seen or shot and in which state?

Around SW Ohio I usually come across 30-45 lbs. But my dad claims to have seen one a few weeks ago trotting through a field of 70lbs.
 
Hmmm, interesting dichotomy here. Many armed to the teeth, two or three guns and a bandoleer of ammo to eliminate two legged vermin, without many ethical problems. Yet many here have major ethical problems about eliminating four legged vermin??..... Ah, the human species...... a dichotomy all it’s own.
 
Just myself I respect someone who wont because of whatever the reason, and they dont have a problem with some one who will shoot a yote. I myself will hunt for them. Have not taken a bunch but got a few. In Michigan up untill around 1980 give or take a year or two they use to pay a bounty. I believe it was 15.00 for a male and 25.00 for a female. They dropped the bounty but left them open all year. Now they have a season on them. It is pretty long, and you can't shoot them during deer season. For most of the season you need to wear hunter orange. They even have a season here on crows now, and that one is not that long. It used to be open all year long. Also here in the winter there is a bar that holds a yote contest. I believe you need a two person pair. At the end of the day they award some prize's, and have a wild game cook out. ( Except for the yotes) I believe a few trappers are there to buy pelts, if there not blowen up to bad.
 
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In Kentucky Coyotes are not native to the state. They do not fill a niche as the fish and wildlife service seem to want to promote. I have always been suspicious as to how breeding populations of Coyotes made it across the mississipi in the last century when they never made it across in all the centuries and mellenia before. I and some of my friends have wondered if Coyotes were deliberately introduced into the eastern US to act as a predator to keep population of herbivores down.

They (coyotes) should be utterly culled and native predators such as fox, cougar, bear, bobcat and more purer strains of Red Wolf should be nursed back into the region. Now we have a healthy population of Bobcats throughout Kentucky and the occasional black bear passes by even in central Kentucky.

non-native Coyotes are direct competitors of native Bobcats and foxes and any other predators brought into the Kentucky region. I hope that one day Cougars will get re-established.

Also any non-native wildlife whether feral versions of domesticated animals or otherwise, should be culled and in most cases left to rot. crows, buzzards, possums and flies have to eat too you know.
 
Not to hijack but I wonder how some feel about WOLVES.

In some areas the kill 2/3's of newborn deer/elk.. They got to eat something. They dont like sticks/bark.
 
I have no qualms of shooting them on sight.

I guess it's where you live and whether you have to deal with them.
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Not to hijack but I wonder how some feel about WOLVES.
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Wolves and coyotes are excellent targets.

I believe it was "the outlaw josey wales"--"Worms and buzzards gotta eat too"

If this thread goes into wolves it's doomed:eek:, way to hot of a topic.

Predators have their place, but man has had his hand in the cookie jar for so long that we have created an unatural balance. I don't shoot every coyote I see, but I don't hesitate one moment to put one on the ground either.
 
Eastern Yotes are much bigger. I have one on the wall

(that I rolled with a deerslug in the Finger Lakes area of upstate NY) in my WY house that the locals think is a German Shepard cause it's so much bigger than our WY Yotes.
Probably cause they eat a lot better in the East nor do they have Wolves killing them (yet).
No Puma in NY though.....:D:D:D
 
Come and take it, One very obvious way that yotes, dillars and other animals made it across the mississippi and other rivers in the last hundred years and never before is roadway and rail bridges...;)

Brent
 
I do not have a problem with killing an animal who poses a threat to my dogs, livestock, or even pesters my residence. That being said, I'm not going to go out and kill a Coyote for fun, there has to be a reason for it...
 
I'm not going to go out and kill a Coyote for fun, there has to be a reason for it...
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To me, that arguement dosen't really make sense if you hunt other animals, just not coyotes. Many of posters in this thread say they will hunt deer, elk, pheasants, hogs, etc., but not coyotes, because there is no reason for them to shoot a coyote. In this day and age, when you can get fresh produce from one side of the country to the other in less than a day and a half, or crab and salmon from Alaska to my local restaraunt in less than 24 hours, and beef, chicken, and pork cheaper then the cost of elk or deer meat (after factoring in all the costs of my big game hunts), there really is no need to hunt anything. The days of hunting to provide meat for you family don't really exist now as they once did. I have seen what an over abundance of 'yotes can do to local game poplulations, as well as farmer's livelyhoods........and thats all the reason I need to drop them as I see them.
 
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For the record, food is about the worst reason for hunting. 99.999999% of critters killed don't "NEED" to be killed for food. It's a by-product that hunters use as a PC excuse to justifly their hobby. If the only reason to keep hunting legal is the food value of the game shot it basically equates to have NO reason.
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Great response, I am going to use this for all the I won't shoot what I won't eat crowd. Thanks!
 
Hmmm, interesting dichotomy here. Many armed to the teeth, two or three guns and a bandoleer of ammo to eliminate two legged vermin, without many ethical problems. Yet many here have major ethical problems about eliminating four legged vermin??..... Ah, the human species...... a dichotomy all it’s own.
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That's a good apples and oranges arguement that should probably be discussed in another thread.

I never said I wouldn't shoot one...we just don't have them here in abundance at all. Regardless, it is still hunting so I think we as hunters, regardless of the reason, should take our game with a humane shot. That was the only point I was trying to make.
 
Interesting topic, and a lot of thought-provoking posts thus far...

Now for my opinion...

When I was younger and still living in rural Mississippi, rabbit hunting was one of my favorite pursuits. My Dad and I raised beagles for running rabbits and we'd hunt every chance we got. It wasn't so much about getting the rabbits, but about hearing the dogs "sing" to us when they got on a bunny. We probably only saw about 50% of the rabbits that the dogs raised up and only actually shot about half of those. I love rabbit meat; when cooked properly it surpasses any other wild game for me.

There is no greater disappointment than heading into the brush for opening day of rabbit season with four of your best dogs, and finding zero rabbits. None. Zipola. Why were there no rabbits? Coyotes. Old yote tracks and bedding areas were everywhere, all over our prime rabbit hunting spots.

That's the day I started hunting coyotes, hard. I did my best to thin out the coyote population so the rabbits could replenish again. I hunt coyotes so my aging Dad and Granddad can enjoy getting out in the woods with the dogs hot on a rabbit's tail.

I'll make every attempt to find someone who can benefit from the pelts, but if nobody wants them, I'll pile them up with some brush and diesel and light a match.
 
I have no problem shooting any varmint that causes harm to my eye: coyotes, opossums, armadillos, skunks, raccoons, hogs, etc. they all cause me problems, killing fawns, baby quail&ducks&turkeys, digging holes in cattle pastures, crop destruction. I completely respect a persons moral code not to shoot them.
 
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