Colt Python, what's the appeal?

As much as I love my S&Ws, there is truly nothing like a Python for quality feel.

My brother has one, its just pure sweet slick. S&W is good, the Colt just takes it into that realm of as slick as it gets mechanically.

Its like a fine European mechanism in a US made gun.

They threw away the molds when they quit making that one.
 
Winchester, I am astounded that you would criticize the SA pull. The DA, okay, it IS weird. Some people learn to manage it very well- I am not one of them, and prefer S&W's DA. But almost every Python I have used has had an oustanding SA pull. A paper puncher's delight.

The SA pull has been great on most that I've handled, but on a revolver thats "the best" IMO it should have THE BEST SA pull I've handled as well. The best SA pulls that I've handled have been S&Ws and actually one Ruger Single Six that had springs. I owned a 1969 Python and I own some S&Ws. I had at least 3 or more S&Ws that had better SA pulls. I just think that if the Python lived up the hype, S&W trigger pulls would be noticeably worse since SA pull is a major concern with revolver shooting. Because once again, S&Ws pale in comparison to what "Uncle Billy said" and yet that have better triggers, better sights, better grips and their bluing, esp on older guns (50s to 60s) was magnificent. The Pony logo IMO seems to hypnotize people into deviating from reality IMO. However, I own a decent Colt collection and I do appreciate them, I just am not over zealous about them as some other people are. This could be perhaps because I own or have owned quite a few, which allows me to draw from personal experience rather than reading and repeating what others say.

I got used to their DA, which is 2 stages aka the "stacking". Its probably a matter of preference between that DA and a S&W DA but its not like Colt made the triggers to stack on purpose because they thought it was better, but rather it was a by-product of their vintage trigger system. So either accept it, or get a different revolver I guess.

Sights:The standard Accro ones, IMHO, are good enough. But to really enjoy a Python, you should get the optional Colt-Eliason rear/ partridge front combo. Again, I am talking about a target revolver- which is what the Python really is. Why Colt tried to disguise it as a service revolver is a mistery to me.

Fair enough and I did know that too before I posted previously. Since its "the Rolls Royce" I just think it should leave you wanting for nothing except for another revolver you may own to be half as good. Its kind of like how say a sports car to some is "the best of all time" once you change out the transmission, tune it, change the rear end and increase the compression (if you had to do all that, is it really "the best"). We all define "the best" differently as evidence by this thread.

The stock grips are the worst ever. But I am yet to find any stock DA revolver grips that don't suck- for me. That's why they come with those handy screws, so you can fit ones that, well, fit your hand

This goes back to what I've always said, Pythons look better than they function. The grips look very nice, but for shooting purposes, they are very mediocre at best. A good stock DA grip? How about a S&W K or N frame magna? They fit my hand perfectly. I also like the feel or S&W combat grips. I have a vintage Officers Model Match 22 from 1956 or so with the 1950s full checkered grips as well, and that fits my hand pretty nice. Pythons in the 50s had the same grip type, just with gold medallions.

BTW,I am quite sure that without the vented rib, the six inch would lose its balance- which is another of its great points. The first, unvented portotypes had their underlugs drilled almost to the muzzle to achieve the correct weight. So no, they are not there "just for looks".

I respectfully disagree with the assertion that the rib is not there for looks. Of course I agree with you that it adds weight to the barrel, but on the other hand, there are other ways to achieve added weight. They could have made the barrel wider, had a more plain jane solid rib, or they could have re-designed the lug itself. S&W played with the weights of their K frame masterpiece guns in the 50s, and the result is a more modest look (which is personal preference itself). There is little doubt in my mind when they styled the Python, they wanted the look to be an attention getter. Kind of like how say a 60s SS Chevelle looks very different from a plain 4 door chevelle of the same vintage. They wanted it look sportier, better or maybe just plain different. If the vent rib itself (and not the weight difference) improved the function, I would have more respect for the design than I do. Now don't get me wrong, I don't think Pythons are trash or anything, and I don't they are much worse than S&W, but I do think that they are bragged about too much. I feel the same way about Diamondbacks. The best Colt 22 revolver IMO is the Officers Model or one if its variants.

Not to get into a peeing contest here, but I am curious about the people who think the python is the best, how many revolvers do they own or have owned? I don't know how many I have, but I know this: having or having owned many helps you identify what makes a revolver terrible, average, good or superb. However, when you have 4 guns, and 3 of them are not revolvers, I don't know if that person can appropriately judge why their revolver is better than another.

Much of this is just my opinion, and remember: YMMV. Thank you
 
Not to get into a peeing contest here, but I am curious about the people who think the python is the best, how many revolvers do they own or have owned?

Have owned, too many to list. As today, several, most of which are S&W :D

But I disgress. I don't think the Python is the best revolver. There's no such an animal, too many variables involved, begining with "The best for what?". I do think it is a mighty fine one.

I'd say it is my favorite CF range revolver.

My favorite RF revolver is my 1958 S&W 17, hands down. And yes, I have owned the Diamondback.

My favorite all around is a very early Dan Wesson.

My favorite CC revolver is a late DS this week, and a 36-1 next week.

My point is, I enjoy and like both Colts and S&Ws without being bipolar. None is "best", IMHO. But again IMHO there's no denying that the Python has some very strong points. Specially to paper punchers. And of course, trigger perception is somewhat subjective, but none of my Smiths has the SA crispness of my Pythons- I keep two at the time.

BTW, Magnas fit my hand quite badly, specially N frame ones. But I have strange hands and am not easy on grips.

Another BTW, the Colt/Eliason sights were a factory option.
 
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I respectfully disagree with the assertion that the rib is not there for looks.

I was refering to the vents. I can only guess that the rib is there to allow a flatter, bigger sighting plane.

But to the best I can recall, the first test mules had plain, unvented ribs. They got holes as a lightening measure, as those early test mules proved to be too front heavy. Info taken from memory from a three part article by Mas Ayoob in the Amercan Handgunner many moons ago, so take it with a grain of salt (the memory part).
 
Grips are highly subjective but I actually find factory Python grips to be very comfortable. If they were smooth, that much better. Everything else on the market needs custom replacements.
 
I own 43 revolvers, dating from 1908 to 2000. I've owned more than that, but thats whats left in the safe. Been issued/owned and shot quite a few more.

The Manurhin MR 73 is the finest revolver made, IMO. I've not shot one -yet - but was able to examine and dry fire one in an aquaintances collection. A superb revolver by any measure.

The Python is the second best. I don't find Colt revolvers in general, and the Python in particular, to be as mechanically "fragile" as some here have suggested.

The third "best" revolver, to me, is the model 19 and pre lock model 66. Again, all in my opinion, based on accuracy, trigger pull, durability, personal experience and asthetics. YMMV, good for you. :) Regards 18DAI
 
I was refering to the vents. I can only guess that the rib is there to allow a flatter, bigger sighting plane

I was referring to the ventillation as well. A ventillated rib to me, screams that other possibilities were ignored. At least they didn't copy it from someone else I guess.

The Manurhin MR 73 is the finest revolver made, IMO. I've not shot one -yet - but was able to examine and dry fire one in an aquaintances collection. A superb revolver by any measure.

I've heard this before and just like the Python, some are invariably better than others. Chances are that there are Pythons that I would really like for shooting, but I have yet to find one.

But to the best I can recall, the first test mules had plain, unvented ribs. They got holes as a lightening measure, as those early test mules proved to be too front heavy. Info taken from memory from a three part article by Mas Ayoob in the Amercan Handgunner many moons ago, so take it with a grain of salt (the memory part).

I find that to be very interesting. I never heard that before, but its very possible. I didn't know that the first few had full ribs.

Another BTW, the Colt/Eliason sights were a factory option.

Ya I know that too. I think the ramp sight should have been optional since the gun was intended for target purposes. Of course, others may disagree. The gun was intended to be a super deluxe target pistol, which is where my of criticisms stem from. Obviously most 357s can make good duty guns, but I think Colt should have went into the target pedigree direction moreso than they did. Marketing and company wise, in retrospect, they did the right thing by making it appeal to many types of people for different uses. Maybe even making some bizarre grips for it, and perhaps doing something about the stacking would have made a better gun in my book. Oh well, I sound like a Colt basher here, and really I do like Colts overall.
 
I have a Python, It's kinda like driving a Caddy instead of a Chevy. The old Model 27's were just as good, if you're going to shoot double action you'll probably like a S&W better, I do but I wouldn't take for the Python. Even the new S&W guns can be made into great shooters but the fit and finish isn't what it used to be.
 
"just another out of production Colt.."

Just like all of the good old out of production Smith & Wessons. Tell me the new ones are the same. Go ahead.

:)
 
Speaking of out of production, Antonio Stradivari died in 1737. His violins are still played regularly and highly prized.
 
The fact they do not make them anymore and the quality of the gun is what directs the price. I remember before Colt said they will not make them anymore, I could buy one for around 600 bucks.
 
Colt DA revolvers

The Colt Python is “a piece of junk”.

The Python is one of the most beautiful revolvers I have ever seen. The Royal blue finish is something to behold. However, that doesn’t mean they are good revolvers.

I don’t own a Python, but I do own three Colt Officers Models. I inherited them from my father. The lock work is identical. And, that means fragile!

You might want to visit the Grantcunningham.com web site. Go to library, guns and gun smithing and then “are Colt revolvers delicate”. I like Grant’s writing style, hopefully you will find it a “good read”. Grant likes Colt DA revolvers and is an evangelist for same. Grant writes the Colt DA revolver is as good or better that any other revolver available. I don’t agree!

Grant also writes Colt revolvers need more maintenance and parts replacement. What Grant doesn’t tell you is replacement parts are difficult to find, as is a gunsmith that is competent in repairing Colt DA revolvers.

Anyway, I decided to shoot one of the Officers Models, a 32 S&W long, in my clubs 60 shot, monthly PPC match. I also practiced say 200 round per week. (Being retired is great) After about two years, say 4,000 of shooting “powder puff” loads, the revolver did not revolve.

I took the revolver to three local gunsmiths. Two didn’t want to try to repair it. The third did examine the revolver and told me the problem was with the “hand”. He also told me he didn’t know where he could get a replacement.

I finally sent the revolver to Cylinder & Slide in Nebraska. They repaired the revolver, but at significant cost. It also took about 10 months! They, Cylinder & Slide”, did a nice job. If I remember correctly, it was more than $400.00 including the shipping.

I fired the pistol maybe 20 times to confirm the repair and then put in safe. I will never shoot it again!

Colt DA revolvers are junk.

Jerry
 
I grew up drooling over Colt Pythons pictured in my dad's Shooter's Bible back in the 70's. To me the vent rib visually makes the gun along with the superb blueing. I like the grip and balance too.

I read about the high quality of them for years and now own a '64 Python 6". Typically I shoot the heck out of all my guns, but this one is too pristine and valuable to do that. They ooze quality and craftsmanship on par at least with a 27-2 in my book. The trigger is among the best I've ever tryed.

All that said, they are being significantly overpriced right now IMO. That may be a good thing if Colt takes notice and fires up the Python line again.
 
The Python line is long gone and will not return. Colt has hinted that it may make another DA revolver but it WON'T be the Python with it's hand tuned action. It would simply cost way too much to be profitable. If we ever see the promised return of a revolver bearing the rampant colt, I'm betting on a return of some version of the King Cobra, or the Magnum Carry.
About the only gun my Python can't outshoot consistently, is my exceedingly plain (ok ugly) Metropolitan. Never quite figured that one out.
 
I had a Blued 65 with the 6"bbl. It was the most beautiful hand gun I'd ever seen much less owned. I fired 2 cylinders thru it and they all went in the same hole at 10yds. I told my son I was going to leave it to him and he responded that he'd just sell it, so I sold it and bought a boat.:mad:
 
Hi Kcub,

I did call Colt. I was informed they no longer worked on Officers Models and there were no parts available. That probably means they no longer work on or supply parts for Pythons.

Jerry
 
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