"Cheap" over and unders

Cabelas

What gets to me is that I have endure Cabelas commercials on cable TV in South Cal, when the nearest one is Reno. As far as I know, I have to drive 40 miles to the one Bass Pro in So Cal to get Reminton Gun Clubs.
 
Cabela

I know your pain, my BassPro is in Manteca, approx 50 miles from san Jose.

And all the local sport stores take advantage with thier prices!
 
[savage owns stevens, and stevens makes many shotguns]

New Stevens shotguns are made in China and Turkey (GoldWing O/U), with some Savage's made in Italy (Milano).

The Mossberg Silver Reserve is likewise made in Turkey.

"Bling" does not quality make.

One of the best things someone looking to spend under $1K for an O/U shotgun could do would be to shop around for a good/USED Beretta 686 or Browning Citori - both in the $900-$1K area - or an older Ruger Red Label.

A sleeper, very reliable, would be ANY SKB O/U, whether proprietary or Ithaca/SKB - around $700-$800.

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My advice is if you want to get into clays get a shotgun you can afford and go hit the range. I just recently got into trap and I will be the first one to tell you I know jack about shotguns but I know my way around a rifle. My first time I went trap shooting someone loaned me their $3000 Citori and I had a blast. I went to the gunshop and immediatly caught a case os sticker shock when I was looking at O/Us. The gunshop owner (whose gun it was I borrowed) told me that I don't need an O/U for trap. I bought a used Remington 870 Wingmaster for $500 and it is a great gun I love to shoot. I am howevr throwing a little money aside every paycheck to eventually buy a nice O/U. Maybe this might be an approack you can consider? I definately feel where you are coming from because I don't make a lot of money and I want to make sure my money gets me the most bang for my buck. Hope this helps.
 
I started out with a 400 dollar russian 12...it worked, still have it, it still works.

here's my take on cheap O/U's. The mfg. sells it and makes money. The importer buys and then sells it and makes money. Then the box store buys it and sells and makes money. So, at best your 400 dollar gun really started at maybe 150...that is not inexpensive, it's cheap. Cheap in price and in quality.

I know, not every one can afford to spend 2 grand on a shotgun. I also know that no one should waste 400 on a 150 dollar gun....and it is a 150 dollar gun....try to sell it for 400! You would be better served to spend the 400 on a Remington 870 or 1100....lots of 870's out there...you can find 1100's for 400 bucks if you look. Both will hit anything in range, can easily be repaired, and will give you at least 1 extra shot vs. the 2 in your cheap O/U. When you make up your mind to get a nice gun, you can sell them and get all or most of your money back.

One other thing no one has mentioned...my 2000 dollar Beretta handles 10 times better that my 400 dollar Russian. It simply works better, feels better, and yes it looks better too. So in fact, I should have bought a 4000 dollar gun, it would have been worth it!

I want you to remember this....IF you get sucked into the clay shooting games (and it is very easy to do)....the gun will be the cheapest part of the deal....even if you start out with a 10,000 dollar Kolar! In the end, you spend much, much more on shells and targets. There really is no such thing as a cheap O/U...it costs a lot to feed one!
 
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