Chambering/Unloading rounds daily. Bad???

Sure seems strange that all those folks who are making springs and building guns say just the opposite. And if springs don't wear out, why do so many of them need to be replaces?
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Part of this is to sell you springs, but you're correct, they do wear out. However, the action of compressing and decompressing a spring is what damages the lifespan of a spring.

A properly designed spring should be able to be loaded with ammunition within its yield strength. This means that the spring will deform elastically, and when the stress load is removed it will return to its original shape. If the spring is not designed properly or of poor quality then it will be compressed past its yield point and deform plastically, creating permanent deformation. This is a theory of physics called Hooke's Law.
 
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My 2c worth

I would just keep an eye on the round being chambered over and over... if it starts looking worse for wear, put it aside for the next range practice and make sure it (the ones you have 'retired' get shot off then. :D

You do practice regularly (fairly) don't you?

If you practice at the range or elseware, say every week or two, you should not have a problem because the one that has been in and out 10 or 15 times should be able to handle that? surely?... but, keep an eye on it and change it if you see fit to do so :D
 
David
Perhaps improperly designed guns or springs?
SAA springs could have been rusted, which will weaken them.
Explain to me the old springs that DON'T "wear out."
Springs are simply not subject to "elastic creep." If they were, ALL springs would wear out. All cars would be sagging, motors would have to be rebuilt, all gun springs would have to be replaced.
BTW- only a "few" springs are usually replaced in guns-recoil springs in particular. The other springs are usually left alone. Why don't they all wear out?
 
David
Perhaps improperly designed guns or springs?
SAA springs could have been rusted, which will weaken them.
Explain to me the old springs that DON'T "wear out."
Springs are simply not subject to "elastic creep." If they were, ALL springs would wear out. All cars would be sagging, motors would have to be rebuilt, all gun springs would have to be replaced.
BTW- only a "few" springs are usually replaced in guns-recoil springs in particular. The other springs are usually left alone. Why don't they all wear out?
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Because it takes a very, very long time and nothing happens if they don't compress/decompress. You'd probably have to devote your life to loading/unloading a magazine all day to do anything to the spring. . . and car suspensions do wear out, but it usually happens at 200,000 miles or so... and they bob around almost all day.
 
C'mon guys ^

Springs have been done to death already, OP was asking if chambering and unchambering a round over & over will bugga the ROUND, nothing about springs :cool:

Best keep it on topic, or the mod gods will zap the thread :eek:

Stay cool :D
 
Not a problem with me. I even tried to get the thread back on topic, but these "experts" who have never made a spring in their life, keep spewing their inaccurate opinions. It really bothers me to see inaccuracies perpetuated.
 
Perhaps improperly designed guns or springs?
SAA springs could have been rusted, which will weaken them.
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Perhaps, perhaps not. Could have been, might not have been. I think it just as unfair to assume either way.
Explain to me the old springs that DON'T "wear out."
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Perhaps they haven't had enough use to meet that designation. Perhaps they just haven't worn out yet.
All cars would be sagging, motors would have to be rebuilt, all gun springs would have to be replaced.
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That assumes all would wear at the same pace and be subjected to the same conditions. Lots of cars do sag, after years of normal driving, no abuse, just time. And again, lots of gun makers recommend regular spring replacement. I know that was one of the first things checked when our guns starting messing up. Replace the springs, the guns go back to working like they were designed.
The other springs are usually left alone. Why don't they all wear out?
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I'd suggest they all do, eventually. But as they are subject to different strains and use, that would certainly keep them from all wearing out at the same time. Sort of like when your pants wear out in one spot instead of all over at the same time.
 
+1 for Bill

I have a box full of old vietnam vintage 1911 mags (dozens originally) that have been fully loaded with ball ammo since the late 1960's (dad was a bit paranoid :D ). I pull one out every blue moon and shoot it and haven't found a misfeed yet. They feel nice and strong. Maybe I am way off base but I haven't found a bad or weak spring from storing a full mag yet among 1911's, beretta 92, Sig P220, 226, numerous AR15 mags and an old remington 742. All get stored full and have been for several years.

my .02
--Dave
 
jgcoastie,

Mind if I switch the order a bit and add one?

1. Carefully draw weapon with full combat grip with trigger finger along slide
2. Carefully eject magazine
3. Carefully pull slide rearward
4. "Push - Pull" to ensure the weapon is clear
5a. Lock slide in rear position
5b. Verify weapon is clear visually or with finger check
6. Place weapon in glove compartment
7. Retrieve ejected round and insert into magazine
8. Place magazine in center console

Leaving the slide locked back while in the glove box makes for easier loading when you pick it back up and will be a lot better if a MP or LEO wants to secure it at a traffic stop or something.

In the carry method I proposed there wouldn't be room for the ejected round to fit in the magazine you ejected. You would put that one in a mag of less-than-premium cartridges or drop it in a bag for refilling the less-than-permium mag when it's empty.
 
5a. Lock slide in rear position
5b. Verify weapon is clear visually or with finger check
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Umm... You must have missed step #4...

4. "Push - Pull" to ensure the weapon is clear
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The push - pull method is the CG standard for ensuring that a weapon is cleared...

After removing the magazine and locking the slide to the rear (thus ejecting the chambered round)...

Using a full combat, two-handed grip, 'push' the weapon away from the center of your chest fully extending your arms (in a safe direction of course). You're looking for daylight in the chamber to ensure that the chamber and barrel are free from any obstructions (bullet).

Then, without altering your grip in any way, 'pull' the weapon to the center of your chest and look down to ensure there is no mag (or alibi bullets) in the mag well.

Repeat.

Your weapon is now safe.

There is no need to 'finger check' as you say... There are many things that can go wrong when handling a weapon, this is not limited to NDs... It is possible to release the slide on your finger as it is 'checking' what can be checked safely visually...
 
You're right. I didn't understand the push-pull reference. I though you meant racking the slide. But can you really see daylight in the chamber? Seems that would only work with revolvers.

Carry on!
 
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