Idahoser said:
...It is not important for a civilian CCW holder to need this level of equipment, although there's no harm, there's no need either. If you feel differently, that's perfectly okay, I am offering a different perspective with I feel, a little more realistic view of the aftermath of a CCW involved incident. I do not feel the need to explain this further, so I won't be responding the next time you express disbelief that anyone could hold this opinion....
It's not that I don't believe that anyone would have that opinion. I know others who share that opinion. But I have noticed that most of the people who are of that opinion have no, or little, formal defensive training.
And you certainly can offer a different perspective. But my question relates to what the bases of your opinion are. Is your opinion based on training you've received from instructors we may be unfamiliar with? Or is it something you pulled out of the air?
My opinion is based on how I've been trained at a number of schools by a number of well known instructors with excellent reputations. Not all opinions are equal. Just as the opinion of my doctor regarding matters related to my health warrants more attention than that of my mechanic, with regard to defensive gun handling I'll pay attention to the opinions of the likes of instructors at Gunsite, Louis Awerbuck, Massad Ayoob, etc.
So whether your perspective is based on a more realistic view of the aftermath of a CCW involved incident is open to question. How did you come by that view?
On the other hand, as I've been trained there may be a number of ways in which the aftermath may unfold. I can't know ahead of time how it will happen if it ever does. And one thing I've been trained to do under certain circumstances is to re-holster one handed without looking (keeping my eyes on the situation) and being prepared to draw again if things change. In any case, since I don't know how a defensive gun use might unfold, nor what I might have to do in the aftermath, I choose to keep my options open.
If you don't want to respond, that's fine with me. It's your choice.
Idahoser said:
...I have not been to a range in this vicinity that allows drawing from a holster. I do, of course, practice without ammo at home, drawing from concealment. Concealment, by the way, that I am more confident of BECAUSE it is too flimsy to be reholstered one-handed. Which would be a foolish thing to try to do even if the holster did have the required bulk, because clothing is likely to interfere...
I carry concealed whenever I legally can, mostly on various trips to Nevada and Arizona; and I find that the holsters I use, which support one handed re-holstering, conceal very well for me.
And I've trained and practice, live fire and dry fire, both drawing from concealment and re-holstering in concealment. It can certainly be done properly and safely with good training, practice and the right equipment.
Idahoser said:
...One last (really) point. I use IWB. That isn't likely something you're familiar with, as it doesn't lend itself to gaming, and doesn't require that oh so tacticool vest to cover it. However, I'm not in this for the game, it's a tool I hope never to use...
And now you're assuming things that simply aren't true. As I mentioned, I carry concealed whenever I legally can (I have permits for Oregon, Nevada, Arizona, Utah and Florida). And I do favor IWB carry. My usual holster is a Milt Sparks Versa Max 2.
Go back and look at post 18.
As for games, they aren't a substitute for good self defense training; but they are an excellent way to practice some basic skills like gun handling, moving with a loaded gun, moving and shooting, shooting while moving, shooting quickly and accurately, dealing with multiple targets, reloading, shooting from unconventional postures, etc. -- and doing all those thing safely and while under stress. In other words, IPSC/IDPA offer an excellent opportunity to practice the basic skills involved in effectively and efficiently using your self defense tools under stress.
