I carry everywhere. I quietly laugh at those signs that say NO GUNS.
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. Having laws that say you can conceal carry but contradicting those laws with other laws saying you can't carry (here) are a funny joke, and not one that I respect in the least.
Yeah, let me just toss my gun in the gun basket while I do my business in that facility and pick it up on the way out. Yeah no...
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So, you are for ignoring and violating the rights of others who have a business because of your own views? WOW.
Yep.
Nobody is getting "violated" either. Not unless they themselves pull a gun or a knife out and go crazy on others.
Besides using chemicals such as those found in house hold products and pesticides could potentially kill the perpetrator if they are allergic to any of the ingredients found in them. If that should happen you'll be defending yourself in a court of law and I'm pretty sure there will be no way to justify using such chemicals as a self defense weapon
Have anyone ever carried whene the employee handbook says it is prohibited and got problems from it??
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Chtoff, it may be acceptable to you to recommend others to break laws that can ruin their life, have them jailed and probably also loose their right to even own guns much less carry them but I strongly recommend that the OP not pursue your recommendations. I recommend reading "Florida Firearms - Law, Use and Ownership" by Jon H. Gutmacher. He is the most recognized lawyer, expert and writer on the topic of gun ownership and concealed carry. I know he focuses on Florida but he also has sections for other states as well. Get legal advice from a lawyer and expert not a post on any forum.
That's some funny little fiction you made up, especially about my non existent "recommendation"
There is not a single piece of language in what I said that implies "do what I do"
Either way carry in to a hospital in Florida and I'll come visit you at the state pen. Its a felony and carries a mandatory three years sentence.
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Either way carry in to a hospital in Florida and I'll come visit you at the state pen. Its a felony and carries a mandatory three years sentence.
I have heard it said that carry into a hospital is illegal in Florida, but I have not found hospitals named in the legislation. A citation would be helpful, if you have it.
Please forgive the link dump here. I simply cannot believe the wasp spray myth refuses to die.
IANAL but this one seems to be a law that could be ripe for clarification through adjudication:Minorcan said:It is under section F.S. 394.458. The logic is that mentally unstable people may be present and since most hospitals have a psychiatric unit that may be so. This is covered in "Florida Firearms Law, Use and Ownership" by Jon H. Gutmacher on page 113 of the Eighth Edition.I have heard it said that carry into a hospital is illegal in Florida, but I have not found hospitals named in the legislation. A citation would be helpful, if you have it.
In discussing post office carry, where the prohibition in federal law has a "lawful purposes" exception, many have argued that carry pursuant to a government-issued license or permit is a lawful purpose. If I were to play devil's advocate I would be asking if having a State-issued concealed carry permit isn't considered "authorized by law." I suspect I'd lose if I were to test it, though, and I'm far too old and too poor to volunteer to become the test case.The 2015 Florida Statutes said:Title XXIX
PUBLIC HEALTH
Chapter 394
MENTAL HEALTH
394.458 Introduction or removal of certain articles unlawful; penalty.—
(1)(a) Except as authorized by law or as specifically authorized by the person in charge of each hospital providing mental health services under this part, it is unlawful to introduce into or upon the grounds of such hospital, or to take or attempt to take or send therefrom, any of the following articles, which are hereby declared to be contraband for the purposes of this section:
1. Any intoxicating beverage or beverage which causes or may cause an intoxicating effect;
2. Any controlled substance as defined in chapter 893; or
3. Any firearms or deadly weapon.
(b) It is unlawful to transmit to, or attempt to transmit to, or cause or attempt to cause to be transmitted to, or received by, any patient of any hospital providing mental health services under this part any article or thing declared by this section to be contraband, at any place which is outside of the grounds of such hospital, except as authorized by law or as specifically authorized by the person in charge of such hospital.
(2) A person who violates any provision of this section commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
History.—s. 1, ch. 75-253; s. 201, ch. 77-147; s. 1, ch. 77-174; s. 6, ch. 96-169.
If you want to know more, the best resource for Florida s "Florida Firearms Law, Use and Ownership" by Jon H. Gutmacher. He is the best and most recognized expert on Florida Concealed Carry law.
I carried everyday to work, then locked it up in the car. Work prohibited it anywhere on the property, so I never carried it in, but refused to not leave it locked in my car in the parking lot. Many were like that, as we left at nearly midnight to go in, through some creepy areas. Get caught with one in the building you were fired-zero tolerance. Parking lots were never checked, though, and there were some grey areas that could at least be argued about whose property the weapon was residing in. Luckily, as far as I know, for those who carry, it's never been tested.
Same with Michigan. I was not breaking any laws, but it could be argued by the company that I should be fired, and thereby lose my pension, etc. To me, and as I said, for many, this was worth the risk, and most likely the union would fight to save us on the not your property, but his aspect. At least that's what we all hoped. After all, the company never compensated you if somebody broke into your car while on their property. We figured they couldn't have their cake, and eat it too.With only a few exceptions, FL allows someone to leave a car in the parking lot, even on private property. Some places fall under DHS compliance and are exempt - power plants, certain parts of ports, etc; otherwise you are not breaking any law.