Wildalaska
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Thats because yes is the answer, no?
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Thats becasue no is the answer, yes?
WildimfeelingparticularlystrangetodaybecauseijustheldamintRACinspectedartillerySAAin90%conditionifyoudontknowwhatthatisorwhatitsworthaskAlaska
Carry at Home
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Thats because yes is the answer, no?
Oops
Thats becasue no is the answer, yes?
WildimfeelingparticularlystrangetodaybecauseijustheldamintRACinspectedartillerySAAin90%conditionifyoudontknowwhatthatisorwhatitsworthaskAlaska
I don't'
I don't carry at home--- Why should I.
I have a gun at my bedside for last resort.
I will keep a loaded gun in my car for those rare moments that I have to
travel at night and long distances.
I live in a very safe place but crime do happen.
The rest, I depend on my head to avoid dangerous places and people.
I don't carry at home--- Why should I.
I have a gun at my bedside for last resort.
I will keep a loaded gun in my car for those rare moments that I have to
travel at night and long distances.
I live in a very safe place but crime do happen.
The rest, I depend on my head to avoid dangerous places and people.
Unless I lived in watts or close to Echo Park, I can't really relate to the need for carrying at home. Right now as I'm typing, the garage door is up, the door to the house is open and several sliding glass doors as well and I don't feel any more suceptible to an attack than if everything were buttoned up tight.
As some have indicated, picking the right area to live, and making prudent decisions like locks, dogs and alarms will do much more in preventing home invasions than any hand cannon you could carry. And should all of that fail I can scurry my keister to the 12 gauge faster than any perp.
As some have indicated, picking the right area to live, and making prudent decisions like locks, dogs and alarms will do much more in preventing home invasions than any hand cannon you could carry. And should all of that fail I can scurry my keister to the 12 gauge faster than any perp.
The Real Wyatt
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Mister Alaska
My apologies to you sir. I was out of line and I'm sorry.
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Someone needs to invent a breathalyser attachment for keyboards.
My apologies to you sir. I was out of line and I'm sorry.
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Someone needs to invent a breathalyser attachment for keyboards.
ohioleadslinger
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Yeah but wouldn't a thread with 20 yes's and 22 no's be kinda boring? LOL
ohioleadslinger
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Oh and I think Alaska might be what Alan Dershowitz elegantly coined, "The Advocates Devil" in taking that not so popular stand on some issues.
I seem to have that old SNL skit running through my head POINT/COUNTER POINT...
I seem to have that old SNL skit running through my head POINT/COUNTER POINT...
Wildalaska
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I just like critical thinking. I think folks that own guns should always strive to be at the intellectual forefront, to dispell the notion we are nothing but a bunch of redneck yahoos with little winkers.
We are not.
Well Im partially not.
OK got to go, need to get the Iron City Beer in the cooler and iron my sheet and hood. And who has my comic book collection?
WildwhatagorgeousdayinalaskaandijustfondledanotherantiquecoltAlaska
rantingredneck
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Who you callin redneck?
Oh wait, yeah. I guess I am.
Oh wait, yeah. I guess I am.
There have been some good and bad points in this thread, but I think the overall idea may be getting missed. We can argue statistics all we want, but statistically speaking, we are all "paranoid" if we are going to make this choice to carry (for those of us who do) based solely on probabilities. And speaking of statistics, even if there's a 1 in 100K chance of being raped by a home invader, it would really really suck to be that 1.
But for me at least, it is greatly a matter of consistency.. I always know where my pistol is without having to first think about it. (Is it on the coffee table? Or next to the couch? Or is it behind me on the end table?) It's pretty widely known that under stress we "revert to training" or what we have practiced. If you need the pistol in a hurry, it is best to have it in the same place all the time. A holster can do that for you.
Also, if there are kids in the house, you have the advantage of being able to maintain your own access to it, and simultaneously keep it out of unauthorized hands (whether those hands be of an attacker, or some other unauthorized occupant of the household).
Further, there is the matter of convenience. No putting it on, taking it off, putting it on again routine if I am going to be going in and out. This also prevents me from fostering a laziness which will encourage me to go out to get the mail, or take out the trash, or run to the corner store without having it available.
If I choose to answer the door, I don't have to have it hanging in my hand wondering what to do with it should it be someone I know and who will come in but who does not know about the piece; I also don't have to run back to wherever I left it in case opening the door turns out to have been poor judgment.
A little less comfortable, yes, it can be, but not prohibitively so. Considering the above points, I actually find life easier to just do the same at home as I do outside the home. It's less work, less hassle, fewer questions to be answered, and safer.
It's not just about worrying about the Black Star Ninja swinging through the back window. :barf:
But for me at least, it is greatly a matter of consistency.. I always know where my pistol is without having to first think about it. (Is it on the coffee table? Or next to the couch? Or is it behind me on the end table?) It's pretty widely known that under stress we "revert to training" or what we have practiced. If you need the pistol in a hurry, it is best to have it in the same place all the time. A holster can do that for you.
Also, if there are kids in the house, you have the advantage of being able to maintain your own access to it, and simultaneously keep it out of unauthorized hands (whether those hands be of an attacker, or some other unauthorized occupant of the household).
Further, there is the matter of convenience. No putting it on, taking it off, putting it on again routine if I am going to be going in and out. This also prevents me from fostering a laziness which will encourage me to go out to get the mail, or take out the trash, or run to the corner store without having it available.
If I choose to answer the door, I don't have to have it hanging in my hand wondering what to do with it should it be someone I know and who will come in but who does not know about the piece; I also don't have to run back to wherever I left it in case opening the door turns out to have been poor judgment.
A little less comfortable, yes, it can be, but not prohibitively so. Considering the above points, I actually find life easier to just do the same at home as I do outside the home. It's less work, less hassle, fewer questions to be answered, and safer.
It's not just about worrying about the Black Star Ninja swinging through the back window. :barf:
I don’t consciously carry in my own home (I don’t strap on the gun when I wake up so I can sit around and watch TV in my superman underwear) but I end up carrying a good deal in the home anyway.
When I leave the house I leave with my wallet, watch, car keys, Kershaw, and my Glock in a UCH. It’s just what I do. When I get home the wallet doesn’t automatically get removed and the keys end up spending their afternoon in my pocket as well. It is quite simply part of my attire.
I have good locks on my home and a good alarm system. But I also don’t have that system armed or the doors bolted shut through the day as I have four children that love to play outside and they are in and out all day long. For the most part I feel safe.
But so did a good friend of mine who was killed a few years ago not 5 miles up the road along with his wife and daughter. His wife had been cheating on him and when she broke it off, the other guy became enraged. Broke into his home (kicked the door in) and shot Dave and his wife before killing their daughter with a knife of all things. His son lived because he was hiding under the bed. Dave owned several guns but wasn’t carrying when this happened. He wasn’t ever given the opportunity to retrieve his weapon from his bedroom. Imagine that.
Like I said, I don’t feel unsafe in my home and I don’t go out of my way to carry inside of it. But to put people down as paranoid or out of line/over the top because they choose to do so is hypocritical and a hybrid of the very anti-gun arguments we deal with every day as gun owners.
People have the right to defend themselves as they feel is necessary. What they are comfortable with is good enough for me. Mine is not the place to judge. Every man is free to defend his life, home, and loved ones as he sees fit.
When I leave the house I leave with my wallet, watch, car keys, Kershaw, and my Glock in a UCH. It’s just what I do. When I get home the wallet doesn’t automatically get removed and the keys end up spending their afternoon in my pocket as well. It is quite simply part of my attire.
I have good locks on my home and a good alarm system. But I also don’t have that system armed or the doors bolted shut through the day as I have four children that love to play outside and they are in and out all day long. For the most part I feel safe.
But so did a good friend of mine who was killed a few years ago not 5 miles up the road along with his wife and daughter. His wife had been cheating on him and when she broke it off, the other guy became enraged. Broke into his home (kicked the door in) and shot Dave and his wife before killing their daughter with a knife of all things. His son lived because he was hiding under the bed. Dave owned several guns but wasn’t carrying when this happened. He wasn’t ever given the opportunity to retrieve his weapon from his bedroom. Imagine that.
Like I said, I don’t feel unsafe in my home and I don’t go out of my way to carry inside of it. But to put people down as paranoid or out of line/over the top because they choose to do so is hypocritical and a hybrid of the very anti-gun arguments we deal with every day as gun owners.
People have the right to defend themselves as they feel is necessary. What they are comfortable with is good enough for me. Mine is not the place to judge. Every man is free to defend his life, home, and loved ones as he sees fit.
I carry at home for the reasons Gunmetal posted. I go from the house to the yard, or the paper box, or the neighbors after I get home quite often. Its a lot easier to always have your gun with you, and not have to think (did I get my gun?) or (where did I last put it?) or leave it laying where a child might get it. Carrying it all the time that is possible works best for me.
rantingredneck
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This morning's experience - Good reason to carry at home.
First of all Happy Father's Day to all the Dad's on the board!
I got up this morning to a pretty typical Sunday morning routine. Wife got up and bathed the kids to get them ready for church. I started on breakfast. We ate. Then I thought I would go check the chem levels in the pool since we're having company over this afternoon. My carry gun was still on the bookshelf next to the bed. Hadn't put it on yet this morning. Went out across the yard to the pool when I see a large dog in my backyard with a broken tie out cable hanging from his collar. It charged, growling and barking. I had nothing but clenched fists and flipflopped feet to defend myself with, but I stood my ground and he broke off the charge. Then I went inside and got my gun.
Two things:
1) I felt like the biggest Dumb... in the world. I told my wife when I came in to get my gun that it was the first time in a long time I had walked out of the house unarmed and I almost get bit by a dog.
2) In retrospect, me not being armed probably saved that dog's life. It appeared determined enough to attack me that had I been armed I would have killed it.
I walked down to the neighbor's house later and very politely asked that they contain their dog as I have small children. They were nice and apologetic. They are new to the neighborhood.
First of all Happy Father's Day to all the Dad's on the board!
I got up this morning to a pretty typical Sunday morning routine. Wife got up and bathed the kids to get them ready for church. I started on breakfast. We ate. Then I thought I would go check the chem levels in the pool since we're having company over this afternoon. My carry gun was still on the bookshelf next to the bed. Hadn't put it on yet this morning. Went out across the yard to the pool when I see a large dog in my backyard with a broken tie out cable hanging from his collar. It charged, growling and barking. I had nothing but clenched fists and flipflopped feet to defend myself with, but I stood my ground and he broke off the charge. Then I went inside and got my gun.
Two things:
1) I felt like the biggest Dumb... in the world. I told my wife when I came in to get my gun that it was the first time in a long time I had walked out of the house unarmed and I almost get bit by a dog.
2) In retrospect, me not being armed probably saved that dog's life. It appeared determined enough to attack me that had I been armed I would have killed it.
I walked down to the neighbor's house later and very politely asked that they contain their dog as I have small children. They were nice and apologetic. They are new to the neighborhood.
FireCaptDave
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My wife, a cop, would think I was nuts if I carried at home.
My wife, a cop, would think I was nuts if I carried at home.
Para Bellum
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Glock 26 or Glock 19 carried 24/7. One guy once tried to invade our home with the intention to kill me. He stabbed buddy from work before. I know why I carry 24/7/356.
FireCaptDave,
I am glad for you that your wife is not this poor woman.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/0622200..._doyle__murray_weiss_and_leela_de_kretser.htm
I am glad for you that your wife is not this poor woman.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/0622200..._doyle__murray_weiss_and_leela_de_kretser.htm
FireCaptDave
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She doesn't leave her gun at work and we don't live in Brooklyn. Actually, we live in the safest city in America with a population over 100,000 people.
Not sure what your point is, but go on a cop board and ask how many of them carry in their house. You'll be surprised how few. Not saying they don't have them (their guns) handy, but I'd bet a dime through a donut that most don't carry them at home.
Not sure what your point is, but go on a cop board and ask how many of them carry in their house. You'll be surprised how few. Not saying they don't have them (their guns) handy, but I'd bet a dime through a donut that most don't carry them at home.