One poster even equated revenge with justice and called any apparent difference just "semantics." Jesus Christ.
That would be me. Did you read my explanation?
IMO Justice and revenge don't have to be mutually exclusive. A local example would be The Carr Brothers. These animals can"t be killed fast enough or harshly enough. Their date with the needle will satisfy a revenge twinge in my being. The details of their crimes will be in my nightmares for the rest of my life. When they are dead Justice will have been served. Nothing less would be just.
If the family of a victim (or a member of society for that matter) feels the need for revenge against an animal who would commit nightmarish, obscene, brutal, torturous, inhuman acts against an innocent person (or people) who are you to throw out a just penalty for those acts? IMO most who take time to read the transcripts from the trial of the garbage I linked to, even with no knowledge of the victims or sense of community or revenge, would agree that eliminating them from the face of the Earth is the only justice for society. You may not agree but you would be in the minority IMHO. Just because the penalty represents revenge to some it represents justice to the judge, jury and a big chunk of society. The only way the penalty would be completely vengeful would be if family and friends were the composition of the jury and the imposers of the sentence.
If you were the family of the victim of such acts by puke like these 2 brothers would you be wrong to feel revenge was distributed the day you watched the scum twitch their last? I think it would be a completely natural reaction.
Here is a very brief description of the crimes I am refering to. This is the tip of the iceberg and spares the truly monstrous details.
At about 11 PM on the freezing cold night of December 14, 2000, Reginald Carr, 23, and Jonathan Carr, 20, invaded the home of three young Wichita men who had two female guests. The Carr Brothers forced all of them to strip naked. They beat the men and raped the women.
In addition to repeatedly raping the women, the Carr Brothers have been found guilty of forcing them to perform sexual acts on each other, sodomizing one of them, and forcing the three male victims to perform sex acts with each of the women. Then the Carr Brothers robbed them and brutally murdered four of them.
According to a lone survivor's horrifying pre-trial testimony, after sexually tormenting them, the Carr Brothers took the friends individually to an ATM machine and forced them to withdraw as much cash as possible. Then, the Carr Brothers transported their naked victims to a remote soccer field and forced them to kneel in the snow before shooting them execution-style in the head, and then running them over with a truck. After leaving their victims for dead, the Carr Brothers returned to the men's apartment and stole appliances, bedding, and china.
The four friends who died were: Jason Befort, 26, an Augusta High School science teacher and football coach; Brad Heyka, 27, a director of finance with Koch Financial Services; Heather Muller, 25, a St. Thomas Aquinas pre-school teacher who planned to become a nun; and Aaron Sander, 29, a former Koch employee who had decided to become a priest.
The fifth friend, a 25-year-old woman, miraculously survived. To get help, she walked nearly a mile, naked and bleeding from her wounds, through snow and subfreezing temperatures. Her identity is being protected because she was the victim of a sex crime.
The surviving victim and Jason Befort were planning to marry soon. But Jason never had the opportunity of placing the engagement ring he had just purchased on her finger. It was discovered and stolen by the intruders.
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