Canned Hunts

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Although hunting and wildlife issues have traditionally been regulated under the jurisdiction of the individual states, uniform, consistent, unambiguous federal legislation is needed to address the issues raised by “canned hunts.” This is vital for both the welfare protection of animals and the ethical hunting community. The inhumane treatment and ultimate death of animals involved in “canned hunts” can only be seen as intentional acts of animal cruelty and abuse. The damage this industry does to the legitimacy of hunting is immeasurable. The only purpose for this cruelty is economic gain for those who provide the animals or the opportunity to participate in this act.

Without federal regulation, the killing of captive animals for profit will continue. orchidhunter
 
uniform, consistent, unambiguous federal legislation is needed to address the issues raised by “canned hunts.”

Wow, when have you ever seen Federal legislation meet the requirements of "uniform, consistent, unambiguous"?

I worked with movers and shakers in DC for almost 20 years and I never saw that.
 
United Hunters.

This kind of inter hunter bickering is just what anti-hunter and PETA want. We as hunter have to stay united. As far Federal Gov regulated anything, how is that going. The way you shut down unethical canned hunts is to inform real hunter about the truth. Then they won't go, canned hunt runs out of money and closes. If they have a bad product , then no one will come. Canned is a relative term. Fishing in 1/2 pond, canned fishing compared the the ocean. Shooting does over a feeder. Saying a canned hunt the animal doen't have a chance. Give Chuck Adams his bow and most animals do have chance. See what mean. Remember folks, other hunters are not the enemy.
 
To Can Or Not To Can Be The Main Misnomer Of A Hunt

Yes, all the posts here are to the point because it is not hunting; maybe at best it is dispatching a live animal along its journey towards becoming good steaks or coarsely ground sausage, or biltong (as we call our local jerky delicacy).

Some foreign clients of “canned hunts” where a lion was the animal to be culled out of the fenced-in pride of three did indeed know that it was an old and well-fed circus performer in its days. Nevertheless that did not distract the trigger-puller to pose with the carcass and even display the nicely draped skin or mounted “trophy” in his Vermont home.

A few years ago my one gun-shop owner pal (man I made him financially successful with all the hardware I bought from him, but he was so damn good on cold rainy days when I was not flying aeroplanes around to stock sales - he would call me in for some long-winded chillies rolled into sandwich size processed cheese and showing me the newest .375 H&H he had) went to get a gemsbok (Oryx) on a 30 000 hectare (NOT acres!) fenced farm near a town that goes by the name of Vyburg (like in “Free Town” - the name is from a rather interesting moment in my beloved country’s colourful history). Now to walk and stalk and find and shoot and kill a gemsbok around 30 000 hectares of savannah, even though fenced in can by no means described as “canned”.

Servaas (“sehr-fahs”) was a rather good shot if not the world fittest loper, so he and his 7x57 got the nicest gemsbok around 4 in the afternoon, but he was rather clapped out by the time the farmer located him and loaded him and the bled carcass onto the Ford F250 pick-up truck (which we call a “bakkie” here like in “plucking” but with a b and without the ph and the ng).

The farmer was a well-known cattle breeder as well and on the way home to the cool room he went via the small 300 hectare fenced in corral to - let’s be honest - brag with his red and white Brahman cattle living on the best natural feeding the Kalahari has to offer in preparation for his production stock sale planned a few months down the line.

Servaas stood on the back of the bakkie with his .22-250 having locked the mauser into the hard case. The owner drove around, and talking outside towards the back he was expounding the virtues of his well bred herds and pointed out some exceptionally good blood and how his good eye had chosen the bull as well as the cows that had bred these.

“How much would that tan ox at ten ‘o clock fetch you at the sale”, Servaas asked.

Now farmers are forever playing off low prices against rising costs to show how they suffer under financial pressures and in typical fashion the answer was: “You know these damn stock sales and those skelm (devious) buyers form the big cities - They’ll probably offer me no more than R3 000 if they buy a pen of 50”.

In that single moment, without hesitation, while the resonance of the burly and bearded driver of the bakkie’ voice was still hanging in the quiet afternoon sunlight of the Kalahari the ox’s front legs folded as a 45 grain monolithic solid whizzed through its brain. The rifle’s short but loud report had already left the area in its expanding shockwave bubble across the savannah and into the atmosphere. All Servaas said was: “You’ve got three thousand”.

Now that is canned hunting.

And if you know a Brahman ox living off the land you’ll want a little more than a .22-250 had you stalked him and cornered him against the fences… Man, he is sure to give you quite a bit more run for your money than any bison bred on salt licks and GM pellets!
 
Without federal regulation, the killing of captive animals for profit will continue. orchidhunter

There is federal regulation. It's the FDA. I see you are ducking my question, Art's and many others. Off to iggy land wichya.
 
How is it more inhumane for an animal to get shot in a 50 acre pen vs a non fenced area?

dead is dead.... get over it, and STFU already.
 
that fred the pig story is ridiculous. did it happen, maybe, but it does not represent any type of hunt no matter what you want to call it. If it did happen I seriously doubt there is another case with any similarities.
 
Not bad for very first kill...

...hunting rookies don't know how they will react at their first shooting chance. I think it's not at all a bad idea to let any hunter make their first kill in a most controlled environment. That prevents game from bad shoots as good as possible, too.

Once you know that you won't shake at a killing chance and that you are able of placing the shot well, I see no point in canned hunting unless meat production etc.
 
The only reason that "fred the pig" story is so "out there" is because of two reasons..

1. the pig was friggen enormous.
2. a kid shot it.

At the end of the day.... who cares, it was just a damn pig. they're essentially a pest.
 
If it wasn't for Texas ranches offering exotic hunts of Blackbuck, Scimitar Oryx, Aoudad, etc, these animals would all be but extinct (as they are nearly in their native countries).

As far as canned hunts with no place to run or hide, I guess you've never been to Texas or set foot on a typical ranch. Many of our exotics are free ranging by the way.
 
One point I just remembered is that even on a small farm, there have been feral cattle caught by hog dogs and the land owner had no clue it was there... the time I am aware of was on a 1,000 acre farm/ranch that had much in pasture and the rest in tomatoes and citrus... Just a few little "bayheads" of swamps to hide in...
Brent
 
orchidhunter's idea about canned hunts is really just too foolish for knowledgeable people to give any credence to it. It's a very rare situation, and is already outlawed by most states. As instances are discovered, they also lead to elimination by law. Trying to bring the Feds into the deal is just another case of a solution looking for a problem.

Enough of feeding a troll.
 
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