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I'll take Fred Thompson.
Do citizens have to show a need before buying a gun, or is Rudy proposing that Congress impose on the nation a standard more strict than the one in the state of New York?
Erie County Clerk
Pistol Permits
The Erie County Clerk's Office processes Pistol Permits for Erie County residents under terms of appropriate New York State laws. Following the completion of an application and criminal background checks, final approval or denial of a permit is the decision of an Erie County Court Judge or New York State Supreme Court Justice.
** Need a Photo? $10 at the Clerk’s Main Office, 92 Franklin Street
Hours of Service: 9 AM - 4:45
The following is the process for applying for a pistol permit:
Step 1 In order to apply for a pistol permit in Erie County, you must be 21 years of age and be a resident of Erie County. You are not required to buy or own a gun at the time of application.
Step 2 You may pick up the application packet at the Erie County Pistol Permit Department, or you can receive one by mail by sending a self-addressed, stamped, business-size envelope to:
Erie County Clerk's Office
Pistol Permit Department
92 Franklin Street
Buffalo, NY 14202
Note: Application forms to be submitted for filing must be obtained at the Pistol Permit Department. FOR APPLICATION PLANNING PURPOSES ONLY, a Draft/Work Copy Only can be downloaded by clicking here. This draft copy is not considered an official application form.
Step 3 Please read and follow the instructions on the application carefully to avoid any unnecessary delays in the process. Applicants must come to our office in person when submitting the completed application. The processing time to receive a permit is approximately 6-8 months.
Step 4 Part of the application process includes various background checks by New York State and the FBI, and an interview by the applicant's local police. Once all necessary background checks are completed, the application is then submitted for consideration by one of the Licensing Judges.
Step 5 Once a permit is approved by a Licensing Judge, the applicant must purchase a handgun and/or co-register one with another permit holder. The applicant must appear in person for the initial sign-up for the approved permit.
Registration of Handguns
When a gun is purchased from an individual, a dated bill of sale is required to add the pistol to the new owner's permit. The bill of sale must show both the buyer's and seller's names, addresses, permit numbers, and the counties that permits are in. The gun must be described by make, model, caliber action and serial number. Once the handgun is registered at our department, it may be picked up by the buyer, and the seller has 10 days to come to the Pistol Permit Office to have the weapon removed from his/her permit.
When a gun is purchased from a dealer, the dealer receipt is required. The receipt must show the buyer's name, address, permit number, and the make, model, caliber action and serial number of the gun. The dealer's name, address, New York State dealer number and county the dealership is in must also appear on the receipt. Once the handgun is registered at our department, a purchase coupon will then be given to the buyer, to allow him/her to pick up the weapon from the dealer.
There is a $3.00 fee for the registration of each handgun to a permit.
Deletion of Handguns
When a gun is sold to an individual, a dated bill of sale is required to remove the pistol from the seller's permit. The bill of sale must show both the buyer's and seller's names, addresses, permit numbers and counties that permits are in. The gun must be described by make, model, caliber action and serial number. Once the gun has been registered and picked up by the buyer, the seller has 10 days to come to the Pistol Permit Office and have it removed from his/her permit. If the buyer is from a county other than Erie County, he/she must provide the seller with a purchase coupon upon delivery of the registered gun. This coupon must then be provided to our department by the seller when removing the gun.
When a gun is sold to a dealer, the dealer receipt is required. The receipt must show the seller's name, address, permit number, and make, model, caliber action and serial number of the gun. The dealer's name, address, New York State dealer number and county the dealership is in must also appear on the receipt.
There is a $3.00 fee for the deletion of each handgun from a permit.
Death of a Permit Holder
New York State Law requires that upon a permit holder's death, the decedent's estate must, within 15 days, turn over the decedent's firearm(s) to another pistol permit holder; a licensed dealer; or the local police department.
The estate is also requested to notify the Erie County Pistol Permit Office of the permit holder's passing, along with a copy of a death certificate and information about the disposition of the firearm(s), so that the license may be cancelled.
Additional Information
Changes in Name, Address or County
Name Change
A name change requires the permit holder to appear at the Pistol Permit Department with proof of the new name in the form of a marriage certificate or Court Order, and two (2) current passport-style photos (no older than 30 days). A fee of $5.00 is charged to change the name on a pistol permit.
Address Change
A change of address requires the permit holder to notify the Pistol Permit Department within 10 days of the change. You may send a written notification or come to our office in person with your permit to effect the change. There is no fee to make this change. Address changes cannot be taken over the phone.
Transfer to Different County
To transfer your pistol permit to another county, you must appear at the Pistol Permit Department, or mail a statement requesting that your file be transferred to the new county. The statement should include your name, Social Security number, date of birth, old address, original date of your permit, permit number and your new address and phone number. You will need to include a $5.00 check payable to the Erie County Pistol Permit Department, as well as a $5.00 check payable to the county where you will be transferring your permit records. The new county will contact you when they receive your file.
Lost or Stolen Permits
You may obtain a duplicate pistol permit when your original permit is lost, stolen or mutilated. We will sign you up for a duplicate when you appear at the Pistol Permit Department with two (2) current passport-size photos (no older than 30 days), along with a list of your guns which includes the make, caliber and serial number of each gun. You will be given a duplicate information form to be filled out at our office when you come in. If your permit is older than 5 years, you may be required to complete a new background check in addition to completing the duplicate information form. The process for obtaining a duplicate pistol permit takes approximately 2-3 weeks. YOU CANNOT CARRY A WEAPON WITHOUT A PERMIT.
Background Checks
If your permit is older than 5 years, before a handgun can be added to your permit, you will be required to complete a new background check (Brady Law). This process takes approximately 4-6 weeks, and once completed, is valid for a period of 5 years.
NOTE: Pistol permits cannot be laminated.
Any questions you may have can be directed to the Pistol Permit Department at 716-858-6600.
Step 4 Part of the application process includes various background checks by New York State and the FBI, and an interview by the applicant's local police. Once all necessary background checks are completed, the application is then submitted for consideration by one of the Licensing Judges.
A Giuliani nomination would be a disaster for the GOP. There is absolutely no way he could defeat Hillary Clinton.
Many Republicans would simply stay home rather than vote for a candidate with his hard-left views/history on gay marriage, amnesty for illegal aliens, prohibiting Federal money to sanctuary cities, and particularly the 2nd Amendment.
I'm not defending Rudy's past gun nazi policies, but what do you want the guy to do?
I'm not defending Rudy's past gun nazi policies, but what do you want the guy to do?
"...a person who wants to possess a handgun should pass a written test, should be able to pass a physical test in the actual use of the gun, and should have to demonstrate good moral character and a reason to have the gun. That those should be...essentially there should be a uniform law passed by Congress that says that every state has to administer that...."
"...a person who wants to possess a handgun should pass money to the guy on the other side of the gun counter, and Congress should not pass ANY law about that.."
In his interview on Meet the Press, Rudy said, "...a person who wants to possess a handgun should pass a written test, should be able to pass a physical test in the actual use of the gun, and should have to demonstrate good moral character and a reason to have the gun. That those should be...essentially there should be a uniform law passed by Congress that says that every state has to administer that...."
Probably what MA, and Boston in particular require for a Class A LTC, which is only may-issue. Basically, you have to prove that you carry large amounts of cash on a daily basis, work in security, or have another, specific provable reason to fear for your life, such as that you're a prosecutor or such.
Yep. Not only does it cost $200 to get the Class A, you're not guaranteed the CCW part, based on your POLICE CHIEF!
f someone wants to get a Class A LTC for the city of Boston, which is unlikely as all hell, they have to go to the Moon Island police range and qualify with a .38 special snubbie. That's it. They can't use any other gun. They can't use a semiauto of any kind. Nothing else. Even if they're not familiar with it, they have to qualify with a blade-sights snubbie.
The hard core right of the Republican party is the same as the hard core left of the democratic party..influential in the primaries and scary to the bulk of the electorate in a general election. In point of fact, Rudy's views on most issues are more in tune with the great mass of voters than either the demos or the republican right.