Bush: "I wanted people to see the truth"

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"I do believe that she was a covert agent at the time, else there wouldn't be an investigation."

Are you serious? That's a terrible attempt at logic. Really, really terrible. That's like being on a jury and saying the guy's must be guilty because they arrested him.

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John,
You're telling me that it's realistic to assume that the CIA's inspector general requested the investigation knowing full well that there was nothing to investigate? That the Bush-appointed special investigator has conducted an investigation spanning years and multiple grand juries....with no crime to investigate? And over all those years nobody noticed and dismissed the case?
That seems just a bit unlikely to me. Laughable, in fact.
No, using your questionable analogy I'm not assuming that anybody in particular is guilty because they're on trial; I'm assuming an ongoing murder trial indicates that the victim is really dead.

So can we get back to the subject at hand now? We were talking about whether the cherry-picked "facts" indicate a political exercise.
 
Chemical weapons were used during the Iran-Iraq war. No one disputes this fact. But now, they can't find any. So a lot of people are saying there never were any.

Didn't the US set up Saddam Hussein to make that war with Iran? Didn't we send him the chemical weapons? That might explain why he used them but doesn't seem to have any more, nor any factories for them.


I have a personal friend who spent about a year in Iraq, recovering highly radioactive material. Never heard a SINGLE WORD about anything like that in the media.

Highly radioactive material does not a WMD make. The uranium that runs pressurized water nuclear power plants can't be used in a WMD. It isn't concentrated enough to create a nuclear explosion. That's when it's brand new (and can be safely handled if you wash up afterward). It's even less capable of exploding after it's "spent", but at that point it gives the term "highly radioactive material" a new meaning. So your friend didn't necessarily handle any WMD-grade materials.


Biological weapons are some of the most insidious, and can be created without a large modern lab. All you need are dead animals, and you can fit the processing equipment inside a semi-truck.

Loft a huge, dead, infectious cow over New York City and blow it up with a stick of dynamite. All you'll get is a mess. I mean, yes, it'll be nasty, but all it will be is a WMA (weapon of mass annoyance).

Biological weapons are "weaponized" infectious agents. They have to be specially micropackaged so they aren't killed upon dispersion (explosion) or upon exposure to air. This is no small operation.

Any chemical plant can produce chemical weapons, it is just a simple matter of what materials you mix and how you mix them.

Again, it's a matter of dispersion. We'd have to find equipment for building a dispersible form of whatever chemical we want to call a WMD, not just the capability of making the chemical itself.

And on top of this, people have been hiding things in the desert since before the time of the Pharohs. Lots and lota of stuff over there has still to be "found".

Makes a good excuse for not having found anything, too.

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It's hard for me to imagine somebody really thinking it's a bigger crime to get a BJ than it is to expose your own covert intelligence agent, except in the bizarro world.
 
Yeah, come back when it's something vitally important to national security. You know, like lying about his sex life.

You would go to jail for what Clinton did. Perjury, not sex, was the issue.

Highly radioactive material does not a WMD make. The uranium that runs pressurized water nuclear power plants can't be used in a WMD. It isn't concentrated enough to create a nuclear explosion. That's when it's brand new (and can be safely handled if you wash up afterward). It's even less capable of exploding after it's "spent", but at that point it gives the term "highly radioactive material" a new meaning. So your friend didn't necessarily handle any WMD-grade materials.

Define terror. Can you imagine dispersing radioactive material and people inhaling it. Not immediate death, but terror for the rest of your life waiting for the cancer to show up.
 
yes but it was perjury OVER sex, and therefore stupid to begin with...clinton should have been so lucky as bush, he didn't lie, he was simply misinformed. Brilliant! Between killing the honor & integrity of our nation and the killing of our troops...I think I'll lay awake wondering how my friends are doing over there. Moving on..

If the sins of your father are passed down the generations who will have more on their family's account? Chelsea or Jenna & Barb? (sorry, it just popped in my head and I had to ask)
 
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yes but it was perjury OVER sex, and therefore stupid to begin with

So what you're saying, if I understand correctly, is that when a woman is sexually harrassed she should have no right of discovery?
 
It depends, since liberal feminists put the harassment laws in place to persecute men of their choice. Kinda like hate crime laws.

Bill Clinton has grabbed and molested many women, but because of his reputation for protecting the killing of millions of little babies, those women won't even blink.
 
wasn't the bringer or the suit Paula Jones? Who accused his of harassment when he was governor or ark?


This from Wikipedia

Paula Corbin Jones (born Paula Rosalee Corbin on September 17, 1966, in Lonoke, Arkansas) was a former Arkansas state employee who sued President Bill Clinton for sexual harassment. The lawsuit was eventually dismissed without proceeding to trial, since Jones was unable to demonstrate any damages; the possibility of an appeal was disposed of by Clinton's paying Jones an out-of-court settlement of $850,000. He was also fined $91,000 for a contempt of court citation for evasive and misleading answers.

According to her story, in 1991 Paula Jones was escorted to the hotel room of Clinton, then governor of Arkansas, where he crudely propositioned her. She claimed she kept quiet about the incident until 1994, when a David Brock story in American Spectator told a lurid account, sometimes referred to as Troopergate, about an Arkansas employee named "Paula" offering to be Clinton's girlfriend. Jones filed a sexual harassment suit against Clinton in May 1994.
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He was giving deposition in this case when he committed perjury.
 
yes but it was perjury OVER sex, and therefore stupid to begin with...clinton should have been so lucky as bush, he didn't lie, he was simply misinformed. Brilliant! Between killing the honor & integrity of our nation and the killing of our troops...I think I'll lay awake wondering how my friends are doing over there. Moving on..

If the sins of your father are passed down the generations who will have more on their family's account? Chelsea or Jenna & Barb? (sorry, it just popped in my head and I had to ask)
So if I go before a grand jury I can perjure myself if it's over sex?:rolleyes:
The president is killing our troops? What grade are you in?:rolleyes:

Do you have the same contempt for Bin laden or Hussein that you have for our president? Or is all America's fault? Let me guess and answer for you. Bush was in power for 9 months when we were hit so it must be his fault for being attacked in the first place. That is if you forget all the embassies bombed and the USS Cole.
 
Do you have the same contempt for Bin laden or Hussein that you have for our president?
Yes.
Or is all America's fault?
No. Just just some of it.
Bush was in power for 9 months when we were hit so it must be his fault for being attacked in the first place.
Yes.
That is if you forget all the embassies bombed and the USS Cole.
No, that just makes it all the more damning. Al Qaeda was already up and running. He was warned about them and chose to ignore the problem. How long do you give an administration a free pass for being asleep at the switch? A year? 8 years? Must be longer than 9 months :rolleyes:
 
Wow, what a pointless argument. First, how much whining would some of these people have been doing in WWII? Second, who cares. It's the Middle East, nuke it. Third, pay attention to what is going on at home and don't expect most of us to really care what is going on "over there". They make good targets and keep at least some government attention diverted from screwing things up here at home.

Lastly, did any of you complainers have a better alternative than Shrub in the last TWO elections? No? Then there's nothing here but sound and fury, move along folks, nothing to see... :rolleyes:
 
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