boycott Colt

1. If anyone can invent a gun that reliably and repeatedly fires only when a designated Owner pulls the trigger, within 50 years form today, I will buy each and everyone of you a drink. Think about it for a minute and you will see that the technology A: Is not yet avaialble and B: would be inherently unreliable with what we have to work with now. Maybe in 50 years. Maybe. This is not happening for decades. If someone can make one that is 100% reliable and affordable I would buy one. The idea is good, the ability to build it just isn't here yet.

2. Anyone who manufactures a quality firearm, no matter what country or culture is OK in my book. Quality firearms transcend all boundaries and ideals, and buying only from a local maker is to ignore the reality that great guns are great guns, period.
 
To Handy: No, I would never buy a new gun again from any of the companies that worked on smart gun technology.
Even with Colt, I might be tempted to buy an old gun. Not a new one, from them or anyone else who worked on it.
I'd stick to used guns.
 
Colt has problems and that problem is labor and antiquated equipment. They made some of the finest handguns ever produced and the Colt legacy will never go away. I hope they get their act together and are more competitive, but I don't expect that to happen. I love Colt revolvers! There are none finer.

I always liked that one Star Trek show where Sulo (sp?) was shooting that "old" Colt revolver. Even on Star Trek, they didn't invent smart fasers. I wonder why they missed that one?

I wouldn't have a "smart gun" made by anyone. It will only push up the prices of all the dumb guns for all us dumb handgun consumers. Maybe we need smart cars? They are responsible for more deaths in the US than guns.
 
Boycotts? Let's not shoot ourselves in the foot

We don't need "smart" guns; we need people - especially police officers - who are "smart" enough to not have their gun snatched from them by a thug!! I always have believed in the direct approach: Shoot the thug before he can get close enough to try and take your gun!

Smart guns wouldn't be an issue if the genius gun banners at VPC, Brady, Million Moms, Rosie O'D, Feinstien and others wouldn't try to ram them down America's throat - if they are on the market as an option that's available - fine.

As far as boycotting gun makers, the deal S&W made sucked @ss, period. I boycotted them for quite a while. Then I began to think that if one gun maker closes its doors, we all lose and the freedom haters have scored a huge victory, which will whet their appetite for more.

The people at S&W who bent over for Clinton are gone - the people at S&W now are trying to do the right thing, IMHO.
 
don't buy Colt or S&W. Be prepared to be burnt to a crisp for your stance. After all, both Colt and S&W are American - no matter what they do or what deals they have yet to pull out of - they are American and those that are so brand loyal will now proceed to rationalize and burn you alive for being stupid, unpatriotic, and the lowest level of ignorant scum. Hey, wel know all Americans are always good, right? Like Bill Klinton, Barbara Boxer, John Kerry, etc. I fail to see the logic that I should be loyal to someone/something simply because of geographical proximity.

I still will not buy Colt, nor will I buy S&W until they pull out of the Clinton deal. Let them both fail and others will not be so cavalier with our rights.
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Bravo; Applause! :D

Look at the name of this auction:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=32155741
 
I've been boycotting Colt since 1970 when the piece of garbage must clean after five rounds jam "o" matic M-16 almost cost me my life.
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Boycott Winchester too it was their powder causing the jam IIRC

for the price colt charges for there handguns and rifles you think they are boycotting themselves.
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You lookin in the wrong places I think...Colts, while more expensive than the competition (word used losely, they really have none in terms of quality) are affordable.

WildboycotteveryoneAlaska
 
Gee, Handy, writing letters to congresscritters doesn't seem to be working over the long haul either - so I guess we all oughtta just quit that too? What a load of pansy defeatist drivel you spew - you have no idea what the boycotts MAY have done, which cannot be seen with the naked eye, in terms of what they may or may not do, NEXT TIME they're contemplating turning like a snake against us.

FWIW, I don't think that just researching a dumb gun itself is not enough to warrant a boycott. What's enough for me to not buy from Colt, is that if I want to find out about their products, like 1911s or SA revolvers, I go to their website, and I have 3 choices only from the get-go: Military, Police, Security Forces - NO information about "civilian" guns, period. Clearly they're not too concerned about civi sales, enough to get with 21st century and put their products on the web.
 
OK, that's different - everything that I had found kept sending me here:

http://www.colt.com/

At the very least, they should have the brains of a 1st grader, which would compel them to think that they might oughtta put a link to the civi page SOMEWHERE at, oh I dunno, COLT DOT COM!
 
...Colts, while more expensive than the competition (word used losely, they really have none in terms of quality) are affordable.
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First phrase and admission of Colt's higher price, second and assertion (I think) that Colts are hands down better queality than anything else built and so should be considered affordable....

This is exactly the attitude that turns me off Colt products. Thier quality is not better than anything else built and, though very good indeed, has been substandard to some other makers in many models at various times in history. Thier quality is always good, but thier prices are always premium. The excuse has become that "Colt is legendary."

But I do not buy Colt products. Not because of any pollitical boycott relating to efforts to be a preferred manufacturor in the government's eyes or misguided smart gun research, but because I don't believe thier products are worth the premium prices they demand. And no, I'm not ignorant of what I speak - I own and have owned Colts and will do so again the future. I also own or have owned S&Ws, Bushmasters, Rugers, Remingtons, Armalites, Mausers, and others which have proven to be just as quality made. I also do not own a Glock for the same reason - over price vs. construciton and value. There are simply other makes and model out there as good or sometimes better for less money.

The Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, Bigfoot, and the Easter Bunny are all legendary, but I ain't buying into them either. At least not at a premium... ;)

Whenever I see a Colt at a price that I consider it actually valued at I pick it up - it's likely a great gun. Problem is that means I will never buy one new from outta the catalogue and used sales are rare... Call that a boycott if ya want - I call it smart shopping.
 
FF,

"Drivel". Whatever.

I know for a fact that letter writing DOES work - try it sometime. Most consumer relations departments are starved for actual data and are delighted to have something as concrete as a letter to advise the marketing and sales departments.

Boycotts don't tell them anything more than their sales are down. Expecting Colt to guess why that might be is the real drivel in this thread. How the hell do they know what the problem is if YOU don't tell them?
 
This technology to me is far worse than the Clinton deal S&W signed.
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Wrong. Not even close. Consumers have the option to vote with their pocketbook whether they want Colt's technology.

With the S&W agreement, the government would have obtained a stranglehold on the industry, affecting not just S&W firearms but every manufacturer who sold in this country.

Do a little homework, please. You can search this site on this topic and learn a lot.
 
Glock and Beretta told the feds to stick the agreement in their ear. I still fail to see how the agreement would have forced them to abide by it. S&W did sign the agreement, Glock and Beretta wouldn't.
 
There is an interesting nuance about SW, IIRC. The agreement is still valid. The Bush administration chose not to enforce it but neither they nor SW officially invalidated it, or so I remember.

I've always wonder why, GWB or a lackey never came out and voided it. If I missed an official announcement of invalidation (not nonenforcement), I would like to know.

If someone else got in office, they could tell SW to abide by it.
 
There were a couple threads on The High Road where someone claimed that the agreement becomes void if it isn't enforced over some period of time, and it was claimed that the five years from the original agreement was a sufficient period for annulment.

I thought, hey, this is great if it's true, so I tried to get additional confirmation, but nobody else chimed in. So, I don't know if that's true or not. Some of the legal talent on this site might know, if that's there area of expertise. I can probably dig up the link to that thread if someone really wants to see it.
 
"I wish my states legislature knew that. They still have legislation in effect to propose in the very near future a requirement that all hadguns sold in Md be a gun with smart technology."

novus collectus, my state (New Jersey) has that too. I can only be thankful that by the time the law is implemented (2 years after the technology is marketable) I'll have long moved out of Liberal Land.
 
Do not come on here and post about boycotting someone without you first having written a clear concise letter stating that you have a problem with them and why you feel they need to change their stance. Then wait till you have gotten a response, then respond to the response and then post a notice here.
Saying what you did and why you did it and why you then feel it necessary to go to the EXTREME of attempting to initiate a Boycott will get us a lot more willing to join to in than to say you heard a mouthpiece anounce on the History Channel that "x is the gospel according to colt." Maybe that guy got fired for saying that, maybe it is old tape, way old. Maybe the history channel edited the tape to make it appear that what he was saying was this, when in fact what he was saying or meant to say was completely different.

Gun companies with the resources and skill of Colt are few and far between. Let us influence the marketing aims of these companies by writting letters, buying the products they produce that we like, and giving positive reinforcement instead of threats of Boycotts. This plan is much more likely to win than screaming at them and threats.

A letter that reads " I am joe blow,

"I own four of your products( see attached pics) and really would liketo buy more, however your recent statements regarding <issue X> has made me rethink buying your products again.

"Are these statements an accurate representation of your corporate intentions, plans etc, or is this a misrepresentation, misquote or error on my behalf on what direction your company is planning on taking?

"If these are an accurate reflection of your intentions, then I would hope that you might reconsider as i believe <what ever your thoughts> would be in the best interests of americans and the 2 nd ammendment.

Thank you for your consideration

Joe blow."



This will far exceed in effect any number of letters or posts that read like...


"You scum sucking spawn of Satan.\\\

Have you no Effing clue what you are doing?

Did your mother consort with Charles Schumer?

I and my entire Gun Club hate you and we know what school your children go to.

is it true that you are the anti christ?

Fix your stance or we will boycott you and all you stand for.



humbly

joeblow."


seriously guys.

these companies are run by MBA's and CPA's We need to present arguements that they understand. MONEY. we like what you make, but we will not buy it if you do not change your stance. ok you changed yoru stance, I am enclosing the minutes of our last gun club meeting where I showed off my new XX and I made a firm suggestion to the membership that we should show our support to you for listening. as a result of our recommendations, four members have bought new XX and we are considering buy Y more for our youth team. These letters get results and noticed. tossing manure at the walls really only makes it stink on our sides of the wall.
 
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