Blasphemy to many...but a welcome tool to the shed for me.

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Pfletch83

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I speak of the Smith&Wesson Governor.

From the short time I have owned this snub nosed revolver from hell, I can say that I respect what it brings to the table as a defensive sidearm.

It has it's limitations just like any other firearm out there,but it gets very high marks for what it is meant to do.

Which is to best allow it's owner an advantage in close quarters defensive uses.
 
It has it's limitations just like any other firearm out there,but it gets very high marks for what it is meant to do.

Which is to best allow it's owner an advantage in close quarters defensive uses.
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If you are talking about use of shotshells for close quarters defense you are out of your mind.
 
The advantage...

Is that the Governor revolver when used with a good '000' buckshot load is a close range fight stopper that can/will best any .45 ACP,.40S&W,or 9x19mm handgun round.

The limits of said revolver with '000' buck loads fall well within the average range of a defensive encounter on the street or inside the home.
 
To Dragline45....

If I were talking about using #6 or #4 birdshot then ,yes you would have good reason to call my sanity into question.

But I'm talking about buckshot which has a pretty good record of doing the job (though said revolver isn't in the same class as a pump or auto loading shotgun,but it is getting close)
 
If it works for ya, cool.

What kind of patterns at what ranges using the .410 buckshot, might I ask? (assuming 3-7 yds as a guess?) Size of groups with the .45 round as well?

How do you carry? OWB or IWB? Or is it regulated to nightstand duty?

Just curious as I'll probably never own one. Maybe a photo or two showing targets and behemoth? (always like to look at photos of interesting subject matter)
 
You may want to go to the box o' truth and take a look at penetration tests for the .410 handgun. Read that, then convince me it is decidedly superior to the cartridges you mention. The reputation for buckshot as a fight stopper comes from the use of 12 gauge loads in full size shotguns, not .410 loads in severely abbreviated handgun barrels. They are not in the same league.
 
Is that the Governor revolver when used with a good '000' buckshot load is a close range fight stopper that can/will best any .45 ACP,.40S&W,or 9x19mm handgun round.
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You have any tangable data that proves this claim or are you stating an opinion as fact;).

though said revolver isn't in the same class as a pump or auto loading shotgun,but it is getting close
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1/2 the payload at 1/3 less velocity is close maybe in your world, but not in mine;)
 
Here is testing video from Brass Fetcher web site for 2.5" .410 000 buckshot 3 balls in a S&W Governor. 10" of penetration with three .38 caliber expanding balls will work real good. In a rifle, a five ball 3" .410 000 buckshot will blow right through 12" of ballistic gelatin and will go 18" to 20" - that will for sure end a fight. The .410 000 buckshot will work well at close range in a home.
http://brassfetcher.com/index_files/410BoreShotgun.htm
 
Was max payne on tv again? I dont mean to crush anyones dreams but 410 out of a snub nose is not a fight stopper unless you aim for the face.
 
"...ignorant victim"
What a civil bunch we have here. Why butt-in when the O/P was merely sharing his new gun? I would love to do a survey of your purchases.
^ I don't own a .410 revolver and I can't even if I wanted to here in California, but it is "ignorant" to criticize 3 or 5 ball .380 caliber 000 .410 buckshot ammunition, when objective evidence shows that all three will go about 10" in ballistic gelatin, and flatten-out in the process, when fired from a short-barreled revolver. It will work for sure, and as noted above, it is a good night stand gun.
 
Well here is what I found....

the PDX-1 generates too much recoil in handgun and long gun use when compaired to other cartridges.

The Governor with the federal 2-1/2 inch buckshot load knocked a 350 pound hog on it's rear haunches and kept it there.

The buckshot punched through 2 inches of thick bone (skull shot).


shot was taken at about 6-7 feet away (it wasn't a muzzle to the forehead deal)

Also I carry the Governor OC the same as I would carry a model 10 or model 64 (hell at one point in my life I carried a 6-inch barreled 686 as a C.C.W.)
 
Let's see.....a revolver that can not only shoot a variety of .410 shotshells, but also any .45Colt or .45ACP load without any feeding or OAL worries....and has the reliability of a S&W revolver.....

....nah, that wouldn't be useful at all.....what were you thinking, Pfletch83?.....
 
What a civil bunch we have here. Why butt-in when the O/P was merely sharing his new gun? I would love to do a survey of your purchases.
^ I don't own a .410 revolver and I can't even if I wanted to here in California, but it is "ignorant" to criticize 3 or 5 ball .380 caliber 000 .410 buckshot ammunition, when objective evidence shows that all three will go about 10" in ballistic gelatin, and flatten-out in the process, when fired from a short-barreled revolver. It will work for sure, and as noted above, it is a good night stand gun.
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I didn't butt in, but you can't say this type of revolver is just as good as semi in 9, 40 or 45. Just like most everyone else, you just don't get it. The OP didn't just show his new gun as you mistakenly said, he made claims about it. I am responding to the claims, and pointing out there is a knowledge deficit. Now I'm not civil? The truth hurts.

There is little to no advantage to this type of weapon. I mostly buy collectible guns so you seeing my past purchases has nothing to do with this. I compare this judge/governor to a glock 19, and it is inferior in nearly every category. No one said the governor couldn't kill someone, no said "it doesn't work", the idea here is that its advantages are small when you apply common sense to it.
 
To Winchester 73...

When applying the same logic one must look at the real world distances involved with defensive uses.

The Glock pistols are good guns in good calibers (as with the S&W Revolvers and the holy grail that is the 1911),but at the close ranges they are most often going to be used they are not the best for the job.

They have a place in the tool shed,but their game isn't close range actions,increase the distance and yes the G-19 does a better job than the .410 revolver.

But on average the encounter is going to be close range and very nasty.
 
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