Bill Of Sale For Private Sales/Trades?

[dogtown tom]

zincwarrior

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Those who think a bill of sale insulates them from civil or criminal liability are sadly mistaken. (people will still sue you if they think you have money. Juries will wonder why you were diligent enough to have a bill of sale, yet not investigate the buyers background)

Those who think a bill of sale is "proof" of anything are sadly mistaken. (I just wrote myself a BOS for Interstate 45, so all you Texans should know it's mine now)

Getting the drivers license # of the buyer or seller proves what exactly? (faked DL's are all over, just ask any LEO)

Some of you guys don't recognise freedom when its staring you in the face. If you want to act like a dealer....get a freaking FFL. Then your REQUIRED to have all sorts of documentation.

If you are so paranoid, scared or cautious that you refuse to do a face to face sale of a gun...........take it to your local gun dealer and let him run the sale through his books and then transfer the firearm to the buyer with a 4473 and NICS check.

I like the personal attacks. Thats very choice.
Reported.

Uhhhhh..........care to point out the "personal attack"?

 

[AH.74]

You said if it was shady it'd be addressed by law. Why would "it" specifically be addressed and other shady things wouldn't?

I did not say that. I said if it was such an issue it would have been addressed and regulated. And to repeat, again- it's not, and so it hasn't been.

All kinds of "private" transactions happen every day. Some people want receipts, some people don't care.

Wanting one or not wanting/caring are not shady. Refusing to provide a receipt is shady.

In your opinion. If I don't want to provide a receipt or get one from you, there's nothing shady about it. It's perfectly legal- therefore not shady at all.

It's such a common, every day, normal part of life that a refusal to provide one is a significant red flag.

Absolutely not, for the same reasons- it's not illegal or questionable in any way, shape, or form. If you aren't comfortable with your potential buyer, fine- but an across-the-board broad-brushing of every refusal as being shady is not appropriate.

I've bought and sold all kinds of things over the years, both with and without receipts. I've been asked for one when I didn't care and I've asked for them when the other person apparently didn't care.

Neither of those is shady. If I ask for one and it's a "No!", it's shady as hell.

Same answer as above. You keep saying the same thing. I may have my reasons, which have been spelled out in this thread as being perfectly legitimate and within the lines of the law. Nothing shady about any of it.

 

[Aguila Blanca]

I know my LGS fully documents incoming firearms with BOS or trade.

And that doesn't provide any absolute assurance that the firearm in question wasn't stolen many years ago, in some other state, and subsequently passed through multiple owners without having been picked up by "the system." ALL that proves is that your LGS knows who they took it in from.

 

[8MM Mauser]

Most guns I sell are at gunshops on consignment. If by chance I do a face to face and the buyer can't or won't produce an Id, I don't need to sell to him and he does not have to buy from me.

On the off chance that the gun is used down the road in an illegal manner and the police may come to my door inquiring about said gun, I want to be able not only to say I sold the gun but also to whom and when.

If that offends anyone, buy your gun somewhere else.

Couldn't agree more.

I have always asked for some basic info when selling a gun.

Why not?

 

[mitchntx]

8mm wrote:

I have always asked for some basic info when selling a gun.

Why not?

Please clarify ...

Asking a few questions is one thing, writing them down is something completely different.