My bad that's .45C+p or Better known as Buffalo Bore .45C Ruger (New model Blackhawk, Redhawk) loads.
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My bad that's .45C+p or Better known as Buffalo Bore .45C Ruger (New model Blackhawk, Redhawk) loads.
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Yeah, that would be subjective.
While I have shot my share of hand cannons I have a S&W Model 29 I like to use as an example. I have a set of real nice wood grips to compliment the gun but shooting the same loads using the pretty wood verse the Hogue S&W rubber grips is sort of a day and night affair. The Hogue being much more manageable. So I figure the grips play a roll in the equation.
That said and away from the .44 Remington Magnum another gun I like and very much enjoy shooting is my S&W Model 27. I have to agree with BigJimP in that you take a moderate cartridge like the .357 Magnum and place it in any heavy large frame revolver like a S&W N Frame and the gun should be a pleasure to shoot. The rules of recoil energy and perceived or felt recoil would seem to prevail.
Ron
Well, after talking about some truly huge guns, I finally bought something and you are all probably going to laugh.
I ended up with a S&W model 27 that has been refinished in nickle. It is a pleasure to shoot and the "N" frame is plenty big.
I liked it so much that I also bought at model 19.
Neither are anything special, just shooters.
I ended up with a S&W model 27 that has been refinished in nickle. It is a pleasure to shoot and the "N" frame is plenty big.
I liked it so much that I also bought at model 19.
Neither are anything special, just shooters.
RIDE-RED 350r
New member
Make no mistake, there is plenty special about a model 27 and model 19!
I out shot 20 some instructors at a police academy with Model 27 (I was 4th on the list) they were using 38 wad-cutters for shooting back then.
I liked the K frames as well, more suited to 38 I thought but fine for 357.
Loved the N Frame. Had the 44, liked the 41 magnum better (still have it)
disseminator
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I also have a 625JM, it's one of my favorite guns!
(disclaimer: I say that about all of them, but because they are.)
I love shooting creative hand loads in 45 Auto Rim brass.
(disclaimer: I say that about all of them, but because they are.)
I love shooting creative hand loads in 45 Auto Rim brass.
The Police Bible for Law Enforcement in the 70s was O.W. Wilson, Police Administration.
Wilson state the service revolver should be heavy, so's it could be used as a club if necessary.
The Smith Model 28 Highway Patrolman fit that bill perfectly.
I have a Model 29 and I love shooting it. But my Model 28 is much more practical, Few people can shoot the 44 Mags (and heavier) contrary to what we read on the internet.
Penitration is the name of the game for shooting large game. The 357 w/LSWCs fit that bill perfectly. With the weight of the heavy "N" frames recoil is managable in 357s.
I've carried mine for 20 years in LE in a place where large animal calls were common.
I've had to put down many of moose after a vehicle/moose encounter. Never needed more then one shot. Humain one shot kills on large animals is best when shot in the neck where the spin enters the brain.
Moose, esp. bulls have pretty tough neck mussles. Have to to pack around the massive racks. I carried handloads, 150 grn. cast Lyman 358477 pushed by a health dose of 2400. The bullet doesnt need to be excessively hard. But it works.
I've posted this before, but the talk of heavy revolvers, and what works warrants another look.
Got this guy while he was charging my partrol car after he cause quite a traffic tie up between Anchorage and Eagle River. He wasn't happey with my overheads I'm thinking.
I know that 44s and >44s will work, but again, few people can handle them. Good 357s that can take a lot of heavy ammo without shooting loose fit the bill. 10s of thousands of rounds in practice and use over the last near 45 years, my Model 28 Service revolver is still rock solid and accurate using my Lyman bullet.
A bit over kill on bowling pins, I had to back off the powder after I put my normal load through a pin and let the pin standing. Got to slow down the bullet a bit to sucessfully grab a pin and take it off the table.
Wilson state the service revolver should be heavy, so's it could be used as a club if necessary.
The Smith Model 28 Highway Patrolman fit that bill perfectly.
I have a Model 29 and I love shooting it. But my Model 28 is much more practical, Few people can shoot the 44 Mags (and heavier) contrary to what we read on the internet.
Penitration is the name of the game for shooting large game. The 357 w/LSWCs fit that bill perfectly. With the weight of the heavy "N" frames recoil is managable in 357s.
I've carried mine for 20 years in LE in a place where large animal calls were common.
I've had to put down many of moose after a vehicle/moose encounter. Never needed more then one shot. Humain one shot kills on large animals is best when shot in the neck where the spin enters the brain.
Moose, esp. bulls have pretty tough neck mussles. Have to to pack around the massive racks. I carried handloads, 150 grn. cast Lyman 358477 pushed by a health dose of 2400. The bullet doesnt need to be excessively hard. But it works.
I've posted this before, but the talk of heavy revolvers, and what works warrants another look.
Got this guy while he was charging my partrol car after he cause quite a traffic tie up between Anchorage and Eagle River. He wasn't happey with my overheads I'm thinking.
I know that 44s and >44s will work, but again, few people can handle them. Good 357s that can take a lot of heavy ammo without shooting loose fit the bill. 10s of thousands of rounds in practice and use over the last near 45 years, my Model 28 Service revolver is still rock solid and accurate using my Lyman bullet.
A bit over kill on bowling pins, I had to back off the powder after I put my normal load through a pin and let the pin standing. Got to slow down the bullet a bit to sucessfully grab a pin and take it off the table.
Visuited a friend's gun shop today. He called before the holidays and in conversation mentioned he had just taken in a S&W Model 28. I asked him to hang on to it till after the holidays. I looked at it this morning and took it home. Merry Christmas to me.
Also looked long and hard at a pre Series 70 Colt Commander in 9mm, like new in the box he wanted $1,500 out the door. I have been looking at or for a nice clean 9mm Series 70 5". Sweet as the gun was I passed. Figure I'll wait on what I really want till one comes along. Real happy with the Model 28 Highway Patrolman though in a 4". Model 28-2 and clean.
Ron
jetinteriorguy
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Model 28's are tough. I accidentally overloaded Titegroup by 5 grains once and shot one full cylinder. Seemed like a lot of recoil compared to the first time I shot the load. So I discontinued and pulled them down when I got home, weighed them and discovered they were 5 grains over. Seems as though the poise was one notch farther than it looked, last time I ever used that scale.
Aguila Blanca
Staff
Shucks, I thought you said something about a BIG revolver ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3mFPwH_3PQ
[sorry -- de debil made me do it]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3mFPwH_3PQ
[sorry -- de debil made me do it]
Creek Henry
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I know Wesson lengthed the 357 to 1.41" for the 360DW but has anyone done the same with the 44? Doing that and pumping up the pressure to +P psi would make for a nice thumper in an extremely versatile gun.
The ruger super redhawk is very comfortable to shoot. That is not subjective, it just is. I mean compared either of the 44mag you listed. I got one. it is big and a great range toy. But; if you want to intimidate or impress your friend dont let them shoot it. It is so easy, to handle. Not too expensive to shoot with american eagle box of 50 rounds.
Now, I would like to try a 500 S&W, but; there I am pretty sure is a braggin rights gun. Potentially for sure. Its big and reloading is almost a must. so; recoil will only be as bad as the ammo YOU load. Probably need to think about casting bullets to. In this case big is expensive.
Is it bigger than a 44 caliber Walker Colt, 4.5 lb, 15.5 in. long? Until very recent times, for some of us, it was the most powerful revolver around reportedly topping the 357 Mag in power. Now we have the Magnum Research .45/70 revolver, very impressive unless you consider single shot pistols. There we can have a 52 caliber mountain man reproduction pistol. Would you shoot genuine antique? Back in the day they had a 54 caliber cap and ball belt pistol up through the military 69, 72, 78 caliber horse pistols. Back powder shooting is fun. And you can still get them delivered TO YOUR HOUSE by UPS.