Australian Gun Laws

Back in 1996 was when they made it near impossible to get semi auto rifles and pump action shotguns. I found out that laws were changed back in 1986 in NSW when 2 outlaw motorcycle gangs clashed and killed each other, the other states followed after that when the Port Arthur massacre occured in 1996.

Link bellow is just on what happened in Tasmania that changed our laws completely.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacre_(Australia)
 
thanks noob, if you ever make it to Indiana u.s.a., let me know. got lots of land to shoot on, and lots of guns to shoot!! always enjoy meeting new people on tfl. oh yea, got a brother over in sydney right now, he loves your ladies, and of course the weather. lol
 
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I have nother couple of aspects of the Australian to add to this discussion. Every firearms owner must have 'safe storage' , a gun safe or locker. The police will inspect this prior to the first "Permit to Acquire" has been approved. For subsequent purchases, the storage is assumed to be in place so no further inspections are required. The police may do a random inspection however. I believe they need to inform you prior to this taking place. The other aspect is the range/hunt attendance requirement. If you have nominated target shooting or hunting on your license, you must attend a shooting range at least four times a year and attend two hunts.

In my opinion, the firearms laws in Australia were designed from the ground up to be frustrating, inconvenient and complicated for shooters.

Many people that I know who owned firearms that saw little use, were happy to have the gummint buy them in the buyback schemes. Millions of dollars of taxpayers money was spent on these exercises and if pressed I would have to admit that in some cases, it probably removed firearms that were badly stored and in danger of being stolen. However, when the second buyback came along and forced people to sell many handguns that were declared illegal, it was a massive scam and hoodwink that achieved practically nothing. Unless you count the licensed gun dealer who faked the paperwork and sold hundreds of guns into the crime network.

What an excellent result :barf:

I'd better stop here or I'll be accused of trying to start the "Legal and Political" department up again.
 
Aus gun law

We all know that all they have done is disarm the honest, law abiding gun owner. The outlaws will ignore any and all laws and gleefully go about their business of getting any and all the firearms they want, and they will use them in any manner they see fit. The politicans of course are unable to figure this **** out for themselves, their brains are just not wired up to be able to understand. You see they must put on the appearance of doing something about gun violence so they can get themselves re elected, so they do the easiest thing possible and that is try to disarm everybody. We all know how stupid that thinking is.:mad: Why would they outlaw pump shotguns, or require special permits? I could take a sawed off double barrel with buckshot and kill just as many people just as fast as someone with a pump. Makes no since to me.:confused:
 
If you are way out in the boonies does anyone care? I understand there are some reaches in Australia that are more remote than in the US.

If you got busted by a cop in a bad mood then you probably would get in trouble.

The police will inspect this prior to the first "Permit to Acquire" has been approved.

I thought so to but i only just got my safe and i asked the firearms regestry and they said i don't need to get it inspected. They told me to just get my rifles and wait for the police to come and do a random inspection.

chadwick76, i would love to go to the US for a holiday and if i did go, i would go shooting for sure. Thanks for the invite :) might take you up on it one day.
 
A 3 month GUN AMNESTY is on in NSW at the moment, Unregestered firearms
can be handed in or registered, no questions asked.
Minister for police has said the theme of the NSW gun amnesty and public
education campaign is "Taking the Gun out of the Equation".
 
I have run the numbers on Australian firearm deaths and speaking honestly they dont prove anything either way. Gun deaths were already on the way down before the laws were enacted . Some intellectually dishonest people follwed the advice we have heard here. Dont let a perfectly good crisis go to waste. They sold the Australian people a a scam.

Remember a law does not do anything it just defines a societal norm. People have been killing each other statrting with hands, rocks and spears before firearms were ever invented. We will probably have a zero homicide rate when the big meteor hits and takes out all human life.
 
Hey R W, yeah there is an amnesty on at the moment, i have already used it to regester 2 centerfire;s and an air rifle, only cost $25 each and you DON'T need a permit to aquire (which is awsome). Take advantage of it while its on, ask friends if they no people with unregistered guns that will sell them for cheap. Thats what i'm doin.
 
G'day fellas. This is my first post on the F.L. forums. Thought I might throw a bit more light on the situation here on the west side of Oz.
The rules are pretty much the same as in eastern states but they are handled a little differently. To obtain any firearm in West Australia you have to either be a member of a rifle/gun club or produce a letter from the owner of a suitable property on which you wish to shoot- unless you are in a club, inwhich case you can't use the darn thing anywhere else without that letter!
Obviously, the property must be of a suitable size for your chosen firearm. Just to make life nice and sweet, you have to produce a new letter every time you wish to add any B-class firearm to your collection. The police these days can quickly check the extent and some details of the property via Google Earth and a phone call to the owner.
If you say you want to hunt, say, foxes on the property and you apply for the likes of a .338 WM you'll pretty much be laughed out of the cop shop!
Things do get a bit easier if you've owned firearms for a large part of a longish life and kept your nose clean (like me - well more or less). But newbies are put through the grinder a bit if they want to go to centrefire first up. There doesn't seem to be a course to sit here. You get given a book to go home and study and sit the test a while later.
A review of the Firearms Act last year in West oz proposed among other things to have hunters renew their letters of approval every 5 years. That threw a bucket of gas on the fire among shooters...and the police as it turned out, when they realised how much extra work that lot would entail. Don't know for sure if it'll come about but looks like we might not be inflicted with that one.
There have been efforts by some to restrict shooters to the property specified but in W.Oz it hasn't happened...yet!
I believe there is something of a dilemma of outlooks amidst the halls of power in Oz. The problem is that although we have always suffered from the Powers' old Brit attitude of paranoia against the citizenry about firearms, especially in W.A. (toughest laws for years until the move to nationwide standardisation), the country has a huge and ever-growing problem of introduced feral animals.
Almost all of our hunting species are feral. Only kangaroos and emus are in some circumstances allowed to be culled where they have bred up in rural districts to unmanageable numbers. In both cases, a permit is required to cull those native species in the West.
I know there has been a hue and cry about us Aussies knocking off our 'iconic' native species from some in the States. But you have to spend time here to understand just how out of control those critters' numbers can go quick time.
To make a long story a bit shorter, we have rabbits, foxes, pigs, camels, wild dogs (not including dingoes here!), deer (mainly in the eastern states), and Asiatic water buffalo to choose from, all trying darn hard to swamp farmers and other humans out of this wide brown land.
Unfortunately, the fairly widespread negative attitude to hunting just makes the problem that much bigger. :(
 
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Oh yeah. Forgot to mention wild horses, donkeys, goats, and scrub (wild) cattle to choose from. Quite a list. Did I forget anything? Way past my bedtime.
 
Wow, WA sounds even tougher then here. Welcome to the forum by the way Foxrr. I know its unlikely but hopefully Rud does something about our gun laws, he has been pro guns for years and even though he hasn't said anything, there is still a chance he might ease them a little...Fingers crossed i guess.
 
It appears that gun control in Australlia is the result of the tyranny of the majority.

The majority should never be allowed to trample on peoples rights.
 
Thanks Noob. This lot looks like a top forum. Stateside leaves us for dead when it comes to the rights of the shooter.
Actually Vran, we have no gun rights in Oz. Our ex-British system says gun ownership is a privilege!
Getting a high powered rifle for hunting in W.A. is even more complex than I've told but I'd have made my post no.1 into a novella just to explain..whew.
And yeah, I did forget one other Aussie feral, the domestic cat gone wild. Native birdlife killer extraordinaire.
 
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G'day just re-found this thread. Some areas have had to cull the Koala population and they decided that shooting them was the best method. In a small part of Victoria you can shoot Wombats (no they are not Bats, more like a mobile rocks about 2 feet tall). From time to time, various bird species have an open cull.
 
I was there in 1996 when Prime Minister John Howard spoke before a bunch of ****** off farmers and gun owners on the subject of banning pump shotguns and semi-auto rifles. He basically said "I don't care if this isn't what you want, this is the way it is going to be." End of discussion.


Now, what people from the US might not understand is that Australia is only 21 million people. Not a lot of people considering how big that continent is. Next, you must realize that a majority of those people live along the coast and once you get inland 40-50 miles, there isn't a lot out there. Think western Nebraska sand hills (most sparsely populated county in the entire US -- Cherry County) and then you will have a good idea.

So basically 95% of the continent is a place you would want and should have a REAL gun. There's nothing out there but you and the wildlife.

This is knee-jerk mob rule at its best. Just because some guy shot up a bunch of people at a tourist location and some bikers blew each other away doesn't mean the rights of the other 99.992% of the population should be infringed upon.

Frankly, I was surprised by the number of stabbings in the news while I was staying in Melbourne --- the quote about the stabbings in Britain isn't too far from reality.
 
How difficult is it to obtain a Class H license? What are the requirements--what is the requirement for the Aussie teams that show up for our handgun competitions?
 
wildboarZ- Least populated county in the US is Loving County, TX with 67 people.

I don't think I could live in a place with gun laws that bad. It's insanity.

I looked up the Austrailian Constitution and it's pretty anemic. No Bill of Rights; nothing resembling a right to bear arms, no right to free speech, a limited right to vote, etc.
 
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