Are Glocks unsafe ?

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I can assure you there is no way to keep your finger outside the trigger guard absolutely all of the time - No way!
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If you find this to be the case you shouldn't carry a Glock with the chamber loaded. In addition, if you find any of the other three basic gun safety rules impossible to follow all the time then maybe even Condition 3 is not sufficiently "safe" for you. ;)
You reach underneath a pillow for it...
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A Glock should never be left loaded unless it's in a holster that covers the trigger guard or is equipped with some other means of preventing the trigger from being inadvertently operated. "Under the pillow" storage of a chamber loaded unholstered Glock is absolutely NOT recommended.
A Glock will, 'go bang!' easier than any other pistol in the world...
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There are certainly other guns with similar manuals of arms and similarly light triggers. There's enough confusion on this thread without throwing in some exaggeration to add to the mix.
If you don't feel quite right about it then, in my opinion, you shouldn't do it.
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Now THAT I agree with 100%.
 
Some other means?

A Glock should never be left loaded unless it's in a holster that covers the trigger guard or is equipped with some other means of preventing the trigger from being inadvertently operated.
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Something like a manual safety perhaps? ;)


Seriously, how in the world can a trigger be inadvertently operated? :confused:
 
A Glock will, 'go bang!' easier than any other pistol in the world
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Okay since we're nitpicking perhaps he should have stated it thusly;

No other pistol in the world will 'go bang!' easier than a Glock.
 
SpectreBlofeld said:
A magazine disconnect safety would be a GREAT idea for a gun that requires pulling of the trigger for disassembly.
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I suspect there was a heavy dose of sarcasm in that statement. At least I hope there was.

However, there are some who might miss it and actually think it to be a grand idea.

Which of course it is not.​
 
Glocks are 100% safe as long as you adhere to the rules of firearms safety (which have been around longer than Glocks themselves).
Now, if you don't adhere to the rules of firearms safety, is it really the Glock that's unsafe?
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A Ford Pinto without seatbelts is 100% safe so long as everyone adheres to the rules of motorway safety (which have been around longer than Ford Pintos themselves).
Now, if someone doesn't ashere to the rules of motorway safety, is it really the Ford Pinto without seatbelts that is unsafe?
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Zukiphile, are you seriously attempting to compare a gun with no manual safety to an automobile without seat belts?
Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water! And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Well, to each his own I guess.

281 Quad Cam said:
Not to join the argument in either direction but this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard..... A Glock does not require everybody else to follow the rules - only you.
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EXACTLY!
Driving is done on a roadway full of other cars operated by other drivers.
You can be doing everything perfectly safe and still have some moron with a cellphone in one hand, a caramel mocha latte in another hand trying to put on lipstick with the other hand run smack dab into you.​

281 Quad Cam said:
You could follow all the rules of the road and still get hit by a retard. But if a retard has your gun and is running around willy nilly pulling the trigger while it's loaded....... The lack of a manual safety doesn't even begin to address the problem.
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However... you should have quit while you were ahead.
Because THAT is the dumbest thing that has been said in this thread.​
On second though. I take that back. I spoke too soon. You have been outdumbed;​
Manual safeties are there for the LEGAL protection of the manufacturer against frivolous lawsuits due to Morons who should not be handling guns!
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Whenever we have one of these Glockophiles vs Glockophobes threads it never ceases to amaze me the things are are said with a straight face.

:rolleyes:
 
Manual safeties are there for the LEGAL protection of the manufacturer against frivolous lawsuits due to Morons who should not be handling guns! "See, we put a manual safety on it and the Jacka$$ STILL managed to hurt himself/others with it"
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Right, because gun makers were being eaten alive by lawsuits in 1911...
 
-the requirement that the trigger be pulled to disassemble. The trigger should only HAVE to be pulled for ONE REASON. Imagine if our Big Red Self Destruct Button mentioned above needed to be pressed before you could shut down the Self Destruct system for cleaning? Are you kidding me!?
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I like that! I have a problem with any gun that has instructions for dissasembly beginning with "Pull Trigger."
 
" I have a problem with any gun that has instructions for disassembly beginning with "Pull Trigger."


Idiots are the problem here. Not the gun.

If someone carries a live round under the hammer of a Colt SAA he is an idiot that has no business with a firearm.

If someone carries a 1911 on half cock he is an idiot that has no business with a firearm.


If someone does not have enough brains to check the chamber on a gun before he pulls the trigger he is an idiot and a danger to himself and everyone else.

Not only should such people be disarmed they could use a good old fashioned country ass whipping.

These people make all of us look bad. I have no sympathy for them. I just hope that when the round leave their muzzle it hits their body and not mine.
 
I like that! I have a problem with any gun that has instructions for dissasembly beginning with "Pull Trigger."
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Remove magazine and check chamber both come before "Pull Trigger" in the Glock disassambly instructions. RTFM, follow the instructions and it's perfectly safe. People not capable of doing so should probably stick to Nerf weaponry.
 
Also I often wonder if some of these people have ever fired a Glock. They seem to think that if a fly lands on a Glock trigger it will fire.

Then you hear the "Glock trigger is so long and heavy it is impossible to shoot well" and the "Glock trigger is so short and light it is an accident waiting to happen" from some of the same people.
 
Originally posted by JohnKSA
If you find this to be the case you shouldn't carry a Glock with the chamber loaded. In addition, if you find any of the other three basic gun safety rules impossible to follow all the time then maybe even Condition 3 is not sufficiently "safe" for you.
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OK, except anytime that Glock is out of a holster THIS is the situation; and, very few people leave their pistols inside a holster when they’re not wearing them. It doesn’t take reading too many threads to recognize that most people’s, ‘bedside Glocks’ are NOT kept in holsters.

There are certainly other guns with similar manuals of arms and similarly light triggers. There's enough confusion on this thread without throwing in some exaggeration to add to the mix.
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Come on, John, you know better than that!

In fact there are, comparatively, very few pistols that have 64% pre-tensioned strikers and highly ineffective trigger safeties. I’m surprised at you for saying that. This is the first time I’ve, ever, disagreed with anything you’ve said; but, this time, you’re way out on a limb.

What, do you own stock in Glock? ;)
 
Right, because gun makers were being eaten alive by lawsuits in 1911...
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Classic.

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A Ford Pinto without seatbelts is 100% safe so long as everyone adheres to the rules of motorway safety (which have been around longer than Ford Pintos themselves).
Now, if someone doesn't adhere to the rules of motorway safety, is it really the Ford Pinto without seatbelts that is unsafe?

Zukiphile, are you seriously attempting to compare a gun with no manual safety to an automobile without seat belts?
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I am making the point that immediately followed the text you quoted, which was,

Tools people use are generally better when they help protect against known human failings.
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We know that people break rules of the road, that wrecks result, and that we can take this into account when designing cars. If we are presented with an assertion that a Pinto without seatbelts is not as safe as a 2007 Volvo, it is no real answer to protest that the Pinto is every bit as safe so long as it is never crashed or hit from behind. We know these things happen regularly.

I didn't take the question to be whether a glock is safe if it is locked in a safe never to be touched by a person again. I assumed the issue was whether a glock is as safe as other designs when used for its intended purpose.

There is a fair bit about glocks I like. However, if a person notes that a glock is every bit as safe as other designs only so long as no rule of handling is ever broken and it is always stored is a special holster, then the additional dangers in use presented by the design are admitted.

Nightwatch, I assessed the risks similarly and kept mine in condition three as well. I also stopped smoking, purchased life insurance and sold my porsche when I had my first child. Different responsibilities made some mundane risks unacceptable.
 
Hmm, my bedside gun is a S&W 38 revolver... Just like a Glock it goes bang when the trigger is 'inadvertantly' pulled all the way back...
I just don't understand why S&W doesn't put a safety on these dangerous guns that shoot every time the trigger is pulled all the way back....

denny
 
However, if a person notes that a glock is every bit as safe as other designs only so long as no rule of handling is ever broken and it is always stored is a special holster, then the additional dangers in use presented by the design are admitted.
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I don't know about "special holsters"... I use the same types of holsters that I've use for other semi-auto pistols I've owned, and I can't think of any autoloader that I would carry without a proper holster which covered the trigger. I also can't think of any firearm that I would consider safe to break the established rules of firearm safety with.
 
I just don't understand why S&W doesn't put a safety on these dangerous guns that shoot every time the trigger is pulled all the way back....
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Length and weight of pull for your S&W revolver is very different than that of the Glock.
 
I thought all guns were safe. guns can't go off by themselves. Just like SUV's can't kill people and pencils can't make mistakes.

Isn't that kind a obvious.

Out of 175 replies, I think "Glocks are safe, people aren't" has been about 30 of those replies.
 
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