Anti-gun politicians recalled in Colorado!
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motorhead0922
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Congrats, Colorado!
From Washington Times:
I didn't find anything on Bernie Herpin's 2A position.
George Rivera's website expresses his support for 2A.
From Washington Times:
I didn't find anything on Bernie Herpin's 2A position.
George Rivera's website expresses his support for 2A.
Spats McGee
Administrator
Morse may have conceded the recall, but this doesn't sound like a guy who's done playing the game:
With that said, CONGRATULATIONS, COLORADO!
While I must admit to having been somewhat absent from the political arena following the 1994 gun control stuff, I do think this is different, for exactly the reason that 44 AMP posted: This wasn't just "not re-electing" the politicians, this was firing them!
Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/11/u...cedes-defeat-in-recall-over-gun-law.html?_r=0
With that said, CONGRATULATIONS, COLORADO!
While I must admit to having been somewhat absent from the political arena following the 1994 gun control stuff, I do think this is different, for exactly the reason that 44 AMP posted: This wasn't just "not re-electing" the politicians, this was firing them!
Spats McGee
Administrator
This is such good news that I'm loathe to close it as a drive-by. Instead, I'll merge the two threads.
Mike Irwin
Staff
"I didn't find anything on Bernie Herpin's 2A position."
The Denver Post says that Herpin is a staunch supporter of the Second Amendment.
The Denver Post says that Herpin is a staunch supporter of the Second Amendment.
Congrats to the good people of Colorado who held these politicians accountable for their disregard of their constituents' 2A rights. I can't claim to understand with any specificity the full national implications of this, but a win is a win, and in this case, there are TWO wins.
Last night the CBS evening news (broadcast before the election results were in) reported that the NRA spent $360,000 trying to influence this "local" election, with what sounded to me like a verbal sneer. (of course, that might just be my reaction to the overall slant of the reporting).
A couple of lines later, they reported that Bloomberg, personally (alone, by himself, from his own pocket was the impression they conveyed) spent $350,000. and "others" contributed as well.
To be fair to CBS (even though it irks me to do it) they did run a brief clip of somebody saying it was "big money Easterners trying to force their values on the people of Colorado". right at the end of the segment.
A couple of lines later, they reported that Bloomberg, personally (alone, by himself, from his own pocket was the impression they conveyed) spent $350,000. and "others" contributed as well.
To be fair to CBS (even though it irks me to do it) they did run a brief clip of somebody saying it was "big money Easterners trying to force their values on the people of Colorado". right at the end of the segment.
Glenn E. Meyer
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Bloomberg must have gulped mighty big after this one.
Good job to all concerned.
Politico story: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/colorado-recall-guns-referendum-96566.html?hp=r5
Statement by idiot:
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/...-debbie-wasserman-schultz-96621.html?hp=r5_b1
According to her - it was an evil plan of voter suppression.
But a left leaning polling group suppressed a poll indicating their upcoming loss.
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/ppp-colorado-poll-96628.html?hp=r5_b2
Good job to all concerned.
Politico story: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/colorado-recall-guns-referendum-96566.html?hp=r5
Statement by idiot:
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/...-debbie-wasserman-schultz-96621.html?hp=r5_b1
According to her - it was an evil plan of voter suppression.
But a left leaning polling group suppressed a poll indicating their upcoming loss.
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/ppp-colorado-poll-96628.html?hp=r5_b2
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I like the earlier quote from the Denver Post that points out that the NRA is comprised of member gun owners who vote and the Bloomberg organization is only made up of politicians!
This recall result should send a clear message to politicians all across the country...but I doubt it will!
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speedrrracer
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Congrats to Colorado. Living in CA, and still reeling from the insane bills which passed our legislature yesterday, this is a welcome bit of good news.
This will have national implications, and that's the most important thing. Representatives that actually need to represent their constituents? What a radical concept!
This will have national implications, and that's the most important thing. Representatives that actually need to represent their constituents? What a radical concept!
maestro pistolero
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It's interesting and significant to note that, although the NRA and Bloomberg's contributions to this effort where nearly equivalent, that the anti-gunners out spent the recall effort by a factor of TEN! This makes gun control support an EXTREMELY expensive proposition, with a quite uncertain outcome.
This ought to be daunting to those looking to contribute to anti gun efforts. Although ideologues will support their causes with wildly generous amounts of cash, NO ONE like to to throw it away.
This ought to be daunting to those looking to contribute to anti gun efforts. Although ideologues will support their causes with wildly generous amounts of cash, NO ONE like to to throw it away.
Fantastic work out there in Colorado!! Amazing. Congratulations on pushing back the statist tide.
I hope this blunts the effect of Bloombergs' money when he goes into other states in the future. Hopefully local politicians will think twice before they take his money and vote for more gun restrictions.
I too remember well the 1994 wave of freshmen Republicans as a result of the AWB being passed. At the national level that reverberated even to this day. Bloomberg tried to take the assault on rights to the state level. Hopefully Colorado citizens have put the brakes on that strategy.
Well done!
I hope this blunts the effect of Bloombergs' money when he goes into other states in the future. Hopefully local politicians will think twice before they take his money and vote for more gun restrictions.
I too remember well the 1994 wave of freshmen Republicans as a result of the AWB being passed. At the national level that reverberated even to this day. Bloomberg tried to take the assault on rights to the state level. Hopefully Colorado citizens have put the brakes on that strategy.
Well done!
This one has an interesting bit buried in it. They claim that a Quinnipiac poll found most voters averse to the recall. This is the same polling body that found 98% of Americans wanted universal background checks back in January. It might be time for gun-control advocates to look for a new source of data.
I think many Coloradans who opposed the recall were not defending Morse and Giron (though many were). Comments I read had to do with waiting for the normal election cycle, and with the cost of a recall during a weak economy.
I think the logical error was in assuming that all those who were opposed to the recall were necessarily Morse or Giron supporters.
I think the logical error was in assuming that all those who were opposed to the recall were necessarily Morse or Giron supporters.
Herpin founded and runs the Pike's Peak Firearms Coalition. It can safely be said he's in our court.
Dave Kopel has an excellent summary of the situation over at the Volokh Conspiracy.
speedrrracer
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Thanks for the link to Kopel's piece, Tom
I loved loved loved reading this bit:
(emphasis mine)
Getting rid of antis is a profitable undertaking.
I freaking love it. Good for Colorado.
I loved loved loved reading this bit:
Dave Kopel said:
(emphasis mine)
Getting rid of antis is a profitable undertaking.
I freaking love it. Good for Colorado.
motorhead0922
New member
Meanwhile, over at MayorsAgainstIllegalGuns.com, the silence is deafening.